Jim,
   someone had sent me this a couple of weeks ago.  It is pretty 
shocking.  Grace and justification by faith are at the heart of the 
Gospel and it is diametrically opposed to the grace mixed with works of 
Mormonism (and Catholicism - I have found the two have a lot in common).
   I had my final meeting yesterday with Jared and Logan.  Jared heads 
back to Idaho later this week.  It was evident that there had been some 
're-indoctrination' from their last visit.  They seemed less open and 
more toting the 'party line'. I trust that God's Word will not return 
void.  They invited me to attend a 'broadcast' of the Prophet and the 
Apostles but I will be out of town on the 2nd and 3rd of April.  I gave 
them a tape with a couple of my sermons on it (1 about Grace from Titus 
3:4-8 and one about the significance of the Crucifixion from Mark 15).
I also encouraged them to contact me if they have any other questions. 
Now it is up to the Spirit of God to do His great work.

Peace,
Steve


J & M wrote:
> Hi guys,
>  
> I was looking up some stuff for Charlie on the cults and religions and I 
> got to reading on the one website that I like 
> (http://www.carm.org/newsletter/2004/11-22-04.htm) , and then I thought 
> of Steven and his talk with the mormons when I read this:  (Read what 
> the Pres. of Fuller said about the Joseph Smith)       Jimbo
>  
>  
>  
> SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH (MORMONISM)
> Last weekend, a friend of mine named Marty and I, drove down from Boise 
> Idaho, to Salt Lake City. We met another friend of mine named Bill 
> McKeever of the Mormonism Research Ministry (www.mrm.org). Bill, and 
> Marty, and I attended a lecture given by Dr. Ravi Zacharias in Temple 
> Square.
>      Temple Square is the mecca of Mormonism. It is the spiritual world 
> headquarters of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints, 
> commonly known as the Mormons. It is an extremely rare event to have an 
> evangelical Christian present a lecture in the tabernacle in Temple 
> Square on a Sunday evening. But, Dr. Zacharias is a world-renowned 
> Christian defender of the faith and after two years of planning, he 
> spoke from the same pulpit at Brigham Young and other Mormon "prophets" 
> have also spoken. Dr. Zacharias was of course polite, being a guest, and 
> yet at the same time quite profound in his address. He is an excellent 
> speaker and an excellent communicator of the Christian faith.
>      There were many memorable moments. The president of Fuller 
> seminary, Dr. Mouw, who attended the lecture and who spoke briefly prior 
> to Dr. Zacharias, stated that we evangelicals have sinned against 
> Mormons.  He then offered an apology to the Mormons and asked their 
> forgiveness for our misrepresentations of Mormon theology. Mouw then 
> mentioned celebrating the 200 year anniversary of Joseph Smith's birth 
> (Dec. 23, 2005).  I couldn't believe my ears.  Mouw then said the 
> following about Joseph Smith and justification.  You won't believe it.
> 
>     "What a wonderful thing it is that we can meet together to talk
>     about the Lord Jesus and about who he is and what he has done on our
>     behalf. There is much here to talk about. I personally take great
>     encouragement from words that Joseph Smith uttered on the occasion
>     of the founding of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
>     in April of 1830: "We know," Joseph said, "that all men must repent
>     and believe on the name of Jesus Christ, and worship the Father in
>     his name, and endure in faith on his name to the end, or they cannot
>     be saved in the kingdom of God." And then he added: "And we know
>     that justification through the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus
>     Christ is just and true, and we know also that sanctification
>     through the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is just and
>     true, to all those who love and serve God with all their mights,
>     minds, and strength."
> 
>    When he said this I turned to my friend Bill and said, "Is Fuller 
> seminary going liberal?" Bill's expression to me was one of disbelief at 
> Dr. Mouw's words.  It is very unfortunate.  Bill later wrote an email 
> that he sent to all on his ministry's email list.  I quote Bill: 
> 
>     "For Mouw to quote Joseph Smith regarding justification and
>     sanctification demonstrates that he has no clue as to what the
>     issues really are, unless perhaps Mouw believes that justification
>     is, 'All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths, vows,
>     performances, connections, associations, or expectations' (D. & C.
>     132:7), in which men must abide to be saved and exalted, must be
>     entered into and performed in righteousness so that the Holy Spirit
>     can justify the candidate for salvation in what has been done. (1
>     Ne. 16:2; Jac. 2:13-14; Alma 41:15; D. & C. 98; 132:1, 62.).' I can
>     only hope for the sake of every student attending Fuller Seminary
>     that he doesn’t. And BTW, I will definitely pass on his invitation
>     to join in the celebration of the 200th anniversary of Joseph
>     Smith’s birth. The fact that millions of souls will be cursing
>     Smith’s name throughout eternity gives me no cause to celebrate. To
>     suggest we join in the celebration of a man who was clearly a false
>     prophet is unthinkable. Fuller Seminary should be hanging its head
>     in shame. Since some may not have read what he said..."
> 
>      One last thing.  I had the privilege of sitting about seven rows 
> back from the front on the aisle seat as Dr. Zacharias spoke. During his 
> presentation, he described the biblical position of man's depravity and 
> sinfulness before a holy God (by contrast, Mormonism teaches that we are 
> basically good). During a crescendo of illustrations and Scripture 
> quotes that were describing the sinful nature that we all possess, one 
> of the general authorities of the Mormon Church (Bruce Porter, a member 
> of the Seventy), looked at me. We were separated by about 40 or 50 feet. 
> It was a perfect opportunity for me to mouth silently the words "That's 
> you." He then turned his head away.
>      In all, it was a very memorable evening.
> 
> 
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