Bro. Dale all I did was quote Jesus.??????????

Mike Cantrell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Gooding" <prosperityfbc@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Prayer for persecution?


> Help yourself brother.  I won't call it persecution when I read Foxes
> book of Martyrs, remember what the Apostles & early disciples went
> through.  But, if that is persecution for you, have at it.
>
> DG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Cantrell [mailto:mcantrell@...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:29 AM
> To: pastorsforum@...
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Prayer for persecution?
>
>
> Bro. Dale, perhaps it is semantics.  However, did Jesus not say,
> "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for
> theirs is the kingdom of heaven.  Blessed are ye, when men shall revile
> you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you
> falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your
> reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before
> you."
>
> Mike Cantrell
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dale Gooding" <prosperityfbc@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Prayer for persecution?
>
>
> > Mike,
> > Yes to everything on the list.  But, I would not call this
> > persecution. Being ostracized, ill-appreciated, defamed, disrespected,
>
> > undermined, usurped, but none of these would I call persecution.  The
> > day I am placed in jail, physically abused, have my stuff or family
> > taken, abused, etc... that may then fall into the concept of
> > persecution.  But not yet.  1st year at my church was good, 2nd year
> > and a half worst year and a half of my life, 40 people left the church
>
> > and stabbed me in the back (mostly "we ain't never done it like that",
>
> > "he's changed everything, etc...) God was bringing in more all the
> > time though.  The last 3 years have been the best of my ministry and
> > we have the best church I know of.  Yes, I faced a lot but not
> > persecution. Maybe we have a matter of semantics here.
> >
> > DG
> >
> >
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