This is exactly what I thought the response would be. DW -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Schobert [mailto:cschobert@...] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:20 AM To: pastorsforum@... Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Lifeway No offense meant to any one, but the article sounds like it is little more than petty jealousy on the part of the writer. When we can get past the "I'm better than you because..." mentality God will use us in mighty ways. God can not do much with us with all of our "religious" undies in a bunch. The issue seems to be more of earthly pride, than anything else. Remember the words of Jesus; Luke 9:49-50 (New King James Version) 49 Now John answered and said, "Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us." 50 But Jesus said to him, "Do not forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side." Chuck Schobert -----Original Message----- From: Pastor David Warner [mailto:dwarner@...] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:00 AM To: pastorsforum@... Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Lifeway Here is the article that started all this debate. The criticism is not so much with the SBC as with fundamental Baptists. Our SBC friends on the forum didn't like the mention of SBC, I guess, in showing the downward trend among fundamental Baptists. This article was written to fundamental Baptist to alert them to an event that Brother Cloud sees, I think, as more of the slippery slope in religious affairs. David Warner SOUTHERN BAPTIST CHOSEN TO HEAD THE INDEPENDENT BAPTIST NETWORK. Friday Church News Notes, April 1, 2005 (Fundamental Baptist Information Service, www.wayoflife.org fbns@..., 866-295-4143) - A Southern Baptist has been selected to head the misnamed Independent Baptist Network. According to the Baptist Bible Tribune, the voice of the Baptist Bible Fellowship International (BBFI), John Rawlings has announced that Gene Sims has agreed to head the IBN and oversee its newly established office in Atlanta. Sims was vice president of Lifeway Christian Resources, the chain of worldly, ecumenical bookstores associated with the Southern Baptist Convention, where you can find the raunchiest "Christian" rock as well as books promoting a wide assortment of heretics and compromisers, such as Mother Teresa, C.S. Lewis, Chuck Colson, and Billy Graham. Southern Baptists can't be faulted for joining the IBN, but fundamental Baptists once knew better. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Schobert [mailto:cschobert@...] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 9:53 AM To: Pastorsforum Subject: [PastorsForum] Lifeway Since when is Lifeway liberal? What have they done that says they are liberal? Do not give me generalities, give me specifics. If we are going to "throw stones" I think it would be wise to know of what we are talking about. Churches are in the habit of throwing the terms "liberal" and "conservative" and even "fundamentalist" around so much the meanings have been watered down to simply mean if you agree with me your what I am if not, then your the other. Because I work in a hospital, does that make me a doctor, because some who work there are Doctors? Because I go to a Giants game does that make me a football player. Because I work at a company that there may be some who are "liberal" in their doctrine, does that mean I am automatically a liberal? If we spent as much time lifting Christ as we do kicking or own, how vast would the kingdom be!!!!! Chuck Schobert ****** Internet E-Mail Confidentiality ****** The information contained in this communication is the property of CCMH and contains confidential and privileged information intended on for the personal and confidential use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the addressee indicated in the message (or an agent responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, copying or unauthorized use of this message is strictly prohibited. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail. -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity." -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity." -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity."