Oh, and one more thing. Although I think there are many saved people in the Lutheran church I would expect that the vast majority are simply lost. I believe what Paul was talking about may have included but not have been limited to particular denominations. Just another thought - the Lutheran church is, I believe, a far cry from what Martin Luther instigated. "Here I stand, I can not do otherwise. So help me God. Amen"! If you haven't, read 'Here I Stand". Great book. DG -----Original Message----- From: Steven G. Rockhill [mailto:revrock@...] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:57 PM To: pastorsforum@... Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] QUESTION Dale, I think you do well to include vs. 6. I have been preaching through Titus and Paul keeps referring to 'sound/healthy doctrine' that is the basis for all things. 1 Tim. 4 is certainly a passage for today. The Evange. Lutheran Church of America just came out with a report to open the way for those practicing homosexuality to be ordained and 'unionized'. Would you consider this a 'falling away' because of 'paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons' - i.e. those who are still (for whatever reason) claiming the name of Christ and yet are reviling Christ and His Gospel? I think I would. Peace, Steve PS - that's 8 prosperityfbc wrote: > 7 - hah! And thats all for me! > Got any thoughts on I Tim. 4:1-6. > I know many will leave of at vs. 5 but I intend to finish with 6 and > then start the 2nd installment of the series "Ministerial Mandates" > with vs. 6 and to vs. 11. > > DG > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...> > Reply-To: pastorsforum@... > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:42:45 -0400 > > >>Make that 6 - I have been out all day and come home to find just a >>handful of messages when I was prepared to wade through at least 65 or >>so. Maybe everyone is tired from the latest battles which were pretty >>fierce. >> >>Peace, >>Steve >> >>Derick Dickens wrote: >> >>>oops 5 :) >>> >>> >>>Derick Dickens <http://www.thedickensfamily.org/> >>> >>> >>>Pastor Wallers Baptist Church >>>PO Box 95 >>>Partlow VA 22534 >>><http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=PO+Box+95&csz=Partlow +VA+22534&country=us> >> -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity."