I think if we are not careful we get into easy believism here. Jesus did not say wide is the gate and broad is the path that lead to life, but right the opposite. He also said that few would travel the path. Matt. 7. Jesus also said, that if we did not repent we would perish, Luke 13:5. He also stated that, those who believed in him would not perish, John 3:16. As I understand it the word "believe" in John 3:16 mean to rely upon, to trust in. This means a personal relationship with Christ. I believe that there is a time when a person is lost and upon entering into a personal relationship with Christ based upon faith and repentance, a person is saved. A definite moment in time when a sinner is translated into a saint by calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:13. I also believe it is a conscientious choice to receive eternal life which is offered as a gift from God, Romans 6:23. I repudiate the idea that salvation is a process. Mike Cantrell