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From: "R Dean Pesnell" <rdeanpesnell@...>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:24:33 -0600
You are correct DW. Thank you for your correction.

In Christ,
R. Dean Pesnell, 205-821-4989, rdeanpesnell@...
Pastor, Katherwood Baptist Church
Officer/Chaplain, Birmingham Police Dept.
II Cor 5:17
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pastor David Warner" <dwarner@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully


> R. Dean,
> You must be careful in how you use the term "predestination" so as not to
> "throw the baby out with the bath water" so to speak.  After all, the word
> "predestination" is in the Bible.  So one can't just discard it as though 
> it
> didn't exist.  To what or how are we "predestined"?   Answer that 
> Biblically
> and you have the answer to Biblical predestination.  :-)
>
> DW
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: R Dean Pesnell [mailto:rdeanpesnell@...]
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:46 AM
> To: pastorsforum@...
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully
>
>
> My Bible says, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten
> Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting
> life." "Whoever" being the key word there. The Bible also calls God 
> "just."
> Just how just would it be for God to sentence someone to Hell if they are
> willing to accept the conditions laid out in His word for salvation?
>
> Furthermore, why would Jesus send out His into the world to, "make
> disciples" if predestination were true? It would be the biggest waste of
> time.
>
> I love my Calvinistic brothers and sisters, I just think they're way off
> base on this one. God bless.
>
> In Christ,
> R. Dean Pesnell, 205-821-4989, rdeanpesnell@...
> Pastor, Katherwood Baptist Church
> Officer/Chaplain, Birmingham Police Dept.
> II Cor 5:17
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Hallmark" <bc_preacher@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 12:08 AM
> Subject: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully
>
>
>
> John Calvin said --
>
> "Predestination we call the eternal decree of God, by which He has
> determined in Himself, what would have to become of every individual of
> mankind. For they are not all created with a similar destiny; but eternal
> life is foreordained for some and eternal death for others. Every man,
> therefore, being created for one or the other of these ends, we say he is
> predestinated either to life or to death."
>
> Institutes, Book III, Chapter XXI section 5
>
> According to Calvinism it might be your mother, your little boy, you
> daughter, your wife and all the church nursery that God will delight in
> sening to Hell. IT MIGHT EVEN BE YOU!!!
>
> After all, praying "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner" is not going to get
> you to Heaven, if God has predestined you for Hell!!!
>
> What think Ye???
>
> Jeff
>
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