Jerry, Do you love your wife the same as you love all of the other women of the world? Do you love your children the same as you love all the children of the world? If not, then why can't God love his children, and Christ love his bride, with a special love? And wouldn't this exclusive love mean that his bride was specially chosen from out of the world? Isn't that what Paul says in Eph 5? On 12/23/05, Jerry <jelewis@...> wrote: > > Jeffrey, > > Jeff said, "What think ye?" > > I think it is ERRONEOUS. > > This deals with "Reprobation" .... the opposite and equal side of the > doctrine of election. > > ... and it leads to some men putting God into a box to limit His great love > for sinners in saying that God does not love everyone. > > In David Cloud's newsletter he referenced the writings of John MacArthur > .... > In his commentary on 2 Peter and > Jude, which was published this year, John > MacArthur denies that God loves every person and > that Jesus died to make it possible every person > to be saved. He denies the "popular notion ... > that God loves everyone, wants everyone saved, so > Christ died for everyone" (p. 73). He denies that > "Christ died to pay in full the penalty for > everyone's sins" (p. 73). > > If God does not love everybody and want everybody to be saved .... then, how > can you believe anything at all in the Bible???? > > 1 Tim 2:3-6 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our > Saviour; > 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the > truth. > 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ > Jesus; > 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. > KJV > The Bible says, John 3:36 > 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son > will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." > NIV (Yes, NIV .... don't you just love the Word of God???) > > It is a choice that the individual makes to accept or reject the Lord > Jesus. > > He is not a puppet on a string being manipulated from above. > > Matt 7:13-14 > 13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the > road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is > the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. > NIV > > The individual himself chooses which gate and road he travels. > > Jerry L > Acts 11:22-23 ... and they sent forth Barnabas, that he should go as far as > Antioch. Who, when he came, and had seen the grace of God, was glad, and > exhorted them all, that with purpose of heart they would cleave unto the > Lord. > KJV > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Hallmark" <bc_preacher@...> > To: <pastorsforum@...> > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 1:08 AM > Subject: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully > > > John Calvin said -- > > "Predestination we call the eternal decree of God, by which He has > determined in Himself, what would have to become of every individual of > mankind. For they are not all created with a similar destiny; but eternal > life is foreordained for some and eternal death for others. Every man, > therefore, being created for one or the other of these ends, we say he is > predestinated either to life or to death." > > Institutes, Book III, Chapter XXI section 5 > > According to Calvinism it might be your mother, your little boy, you > daughter, your wife and all the church nursery that God will delight in > sening to Hell. IT MIGHT EVEN BE YOU!!! > > After all, praying "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner" is not going to get > you to Heaven, if God has predestined you for Hell!!! > > What think Ye??? > > Jeff > > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow > Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all > things, charity." > > -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential > things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, > charity." > > -- Grace and peace, Kevin Sigafoos --------------------- For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen. (Rom 11:36)