excuses ... excuses .... excuses ....

:-)  :-)  :-)

Love you, brother!!!!

Jerry L



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R Dean Pesnell" <rdeanpesnell@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully


> That should have read "not true." I got to bed late last night and was 
> awakened by a knock on the door early. I think I'll go lay back down. 
> Sorry to Bro. Jerry for all of the emails.
>
> In Christ,
> R. Dean Pesnell, 205-821-4989, rdeanpesnell@...
> Pastor, Katherwood Baptist Church
> Officer/Chaplain, Birmingham Police Dept.
> II Cor 5:17
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "R Dean Pesnell" <rdeanpesnell@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully
>
>
>> What I should have said is if the way predestination had been presented 
>> was true. Again DW thanks for pointing my error out. God bless.
>>
>> In Christ,
>> R. Dean Pesnell, 205-821-4989, rdeanpesnell@...
>> Pastor, Katherwood Baptist Church
>> Officer/Chaplain, Birmingham Police Dept.
>> II Cor 5:17
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Pastor David Warner" <dwarner@...>
>> To: <pastorsforum@...>
>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:22 AM
>> Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully
>>
>>
>>> R. Dean,
>>> You must be careful in how you use the term "predestination" so as not 
>>> to
>>> "throw the baby out with the bath water" so to speak.  After all, the 
>>> word
>>> "predestination" is in the Bible.  So one can't just discard it as 
>>> though it
>>> didn't exist.  To what or how are we "predestined"?   Answer that 
>>> Biblically
>>> and you have the answer to Biblical predestination.  :-)
>>>
>>> DW
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: R Dean Pesnell [mailto:rdeanpesnell@...]
>>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 9:46 AM
>>> To: pastorsforum@...
>>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully
>>>
>>>
>>> My Bible says, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only 
>>> begotten
>>> Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting
>>> life." "Whoever" being the key word there. The Bible also calls God 
>>> "just."
>>> Just how just would it be for God to sentence someone to Hell if they 
>>> are
>>> willing to accept the conditions laid out in His word for salvation?
>>>
>>> Furthermore, why would Jesus send out His into the world to, "make
>>> disciples" if predestination were true? It would be the biggest waste of
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I love my Calvinistic brothers and sisters, I just think they're way off
>>> base on this one. God bless.
>>>
>>> In Christ,
>>> R. Dean Pesnell, 205-821-4989, rdeanpesnell@...
>>> Pastor, Katherwood Baptist Church
>>> Officer/Chaplain, Birmingham Police Dept.
>>> II Cor 5:17
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jeff Hallmark" <bc_preacher@...>
>>> To: <pastorsforum@...>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 12:08 AM
>>> Subject: [PastorsForum] Read and read carefully
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Calvin said --
>>>
>>> "Predestination we call the eternal decree of God, by which He has
>>> determined in Himself, what would have to become of every individual of
>>> mankind. For they are not all created with a similar destiny; but 
>>> eternal
>>> life is foreordained for some and eternal death for others. Every man,
>>> therefore, being created for one or the other of these ends, we say he 
>>> is
>>> predestinated either to life or to death."
>>>
>>> Institutes, Book III, Chapter XXI section 5
>>>
>>> According to Calvinism it might be your mother, your little boy, you
>>> daughter, your wife and all the church nursery that God will delight in
>>> sening to Hell. IT MIGHT EVEN BE YOU!!!
>>>
>>> After all, praying "Lord, be merciful to me a sinner" is not going to 
>>> get
>>> you to Heaven, if God has predestined you for Hell!!!
>>>
>>> What think Ye???
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
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