[pastorsforum] Re: [PastorsForum] who baptized before John..?? where is He?

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From: Kevin Sigafoos <ksigafoos@...>
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:50:50 -0500
I too remember hearing that baptism was a common Jewish practice,
though to be honest I don't remember where I heard that.  There are
certainly ceremonial cleansings proscribed in Scripture.  As for
"chapter and verse," might not this apply:

And Elisha sent a messenger to him, saying, "Go and wash in the Jordan
seven times, and your flesh shall be restored, and you shall be
clean."
(2Ki 5:10)

Now, I want to be clear, I don't think that Naaman's cleansing in the
Jordan was exactly the same as John's baptism.  But it might be an
example of the Jewish practice of baptism.

I don't think that Christian baptism is exactly the same as John's. 
Acts 19:3-4 makes that clear enough.  The people in Corinth had
received John's baptism "unto repentance" but he still baptized them
in the name of the Lord Jesus.  Interestingly enough, this was also
when the Corinthians received the Holy Spirit and not at a subsequent
baptism of the Holy Spirit.

And it happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through
the inland country and came to Ephesus. There he found some disciples.
And he said to them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you
believed?" And they said, "No, we have not even heard that there is a
Holy Spirit." And he said, "Into what then were you baptized?" They
said, "Into John's baptism." And Paul said, "John baptized with the
baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who
was to come after him, that is, Jesus." On hearing this, they were
baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his
hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking
in tongues and prophesying.
(Act 19:1-6)



On 1/15/06, Pastor Hughes <embc@...> wrote:
> chapter and verse please....
> this is a full length mirror..
>
> John practiced a ceremonial cleansing by immersion, calling it a "baptism
> unto repentance."  He was not the first to do this, and therefore, could not
> be the first Baptist.
>
> Pastor Hughes
> East Mesa Baptist Church
> http://www.eastmesabaptist.com/
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