I think that you all missed the point. The reality is that these individuals are already apart of these congregations and they are going to open dialogue to try and turn these individuals around, by placing your head in the sand and doing nothing is not going to resolve anything. I don't condone slavery or homosexuality but that did not change the fact that it was and is a part of our lives and culture. We have a group called (SEAL) Spiritually Educating Alternative Lifestyles which does not support gays but strives through scripture to change those lifestyles through Christ. If we ignore this large segment of people we miss the opportunity to change them. I know many of you will not agree but to read something in an article and then run with it without actually knowing what's really going is not good at all. As you may know or not know drug addiction and disease (Aids) have crippled the black community. So we do need to discuss these issues to attempt to turn these individuals back to Christ. Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Douglas Lee -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Sigafoos [mailto:ksigafoos@...] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 9:34 AM To: pastorsforum@... Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Black Church Group Forms to Support Gays I thought this was the saddest part of the article: "We have to find ways to incorporate it [homosexuality] with the Bible the same as was done with slavery. The Bible condones slavery. We have to interpret rather than exclude." We have to reinterpret (aka distort) the Bible so as to incorporate homosexuals?!? The current gay-debate is NOT the same as the civil rights debate. Slavery is not condoned in the Bible. How sad that someone can misunderstand Scripture so badly and still be called a pastor. This is what liberation theology leads to. -- Grace and peace, Kevin Sigafoos --------------------- For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen. (Rom 11:36) -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity."