Science did not bring in the gap theory! The notes in the Schofield
Reference of the KJV Bible did!
Pastor David
Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!
(Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miguel" <fbco@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Palm Sunday?????? ( Luke 22/Mark 11)
> Steve,
>
> God did create everything in an instant - he spoke and it happened.
>
> 24 hours would be a wonderful testimony to his power and ability where as
> any length of time that would allow scientist to bring in the gap theory
> or evolution or any other heresy would take the eyes off the creator and
> unto the creation...just like it is today.
>
> When God created all things they were created with age yet they were mere
> seconds, minutes, hours, and in the case of Adam some were only six days
> old.
>
> A literal creation removes all argument for many of the heresies being
> taught today!
>
> Miguel
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
> Aubrey,
> I appreciate your comments but I would have to disagree. Certainly God
> is not bound by time. Why did He have to create in 6 24 hour days or 6
> eras of 24 million years? Certainly God could have created it all in an
> instant - by His spoken Word. But he didn't - because with God everything
> has a plan and purpose -nothing happens randomly or without meaning. God
> was giving us (mankind) a pattern to follow throughout our existence - 6
> 24 hour days of work and 1 24 hour day of rest. This pattern or cycle has
> great benefits to mankind (physically, emotionally and spiritually) and is
> the basis that God uses for the 4th Commandment. Also, I believe a 7 Day
> week is followed by every culture past and present. In my opinion - the
> only reason Christians become skeptical about 6 24 hour days of Creation
> is because they feel the pressure from Darwinian Science. I don't think
> we need to twist and turn Scripture to say what it does not mean in order
> to conform it to Darwinian Science; on the contrary we need to
> re-interpret our data gained from Science. Scripture and the general
> revelation from Creation are in agreement. Good science acknowledges this
> (some of the greatest scientists of history were Christians). Darwinian
> Science (what we have mostly today) rejects this agreement right from the
> start. Darwinian Science is its own belief system and requires its own
> faith. Darwinian Science is a theory, not fact. It has never been proven
> and never can be. It must be accepted by faith. Praise God we have God's
> revelation in three kinds (Creation, the Word, the Word become Flesh) so
> we don't have to guess about the origin of all things.
>
> Peace,
> Steve
>
> Aubrey Whitlock wrote:
>
> Miguel,
> I have to agree with David on this one because you opened it up. You can't
> limit God. Either with 24 hours or not. What if it was 24 million hours?
> That's not the point to me in creation. The point to me is that GOD SPOKE
> IT INTO EXISTENCE FOR HIS PURPOSE. I believe and glory in that. I
> personally don't have a problem with the literal view if that's how God
> did it or the other way either if that's how God did it. I have a problem
> with saying there's some other way that it was done. I've got to go to
> the doctor and will leave this with you guys.
> Aubrey Whitlock
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID POWELL" <dpowellaz@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Palm Sunday?????? ( Luke 22/Mark 11)
>
>
>
> God is NOT limited but you cannot say that is what it is without proof!
> Show me where Adam did not have a belly button. Sure it could have been
> 24 hours. That is not the point. The point is that it did not have to
> be.
>
> Pastor David
>
> Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!
> (Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miguel" <fbco@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Palm Sunday?????? ( Luke 22/Mark 11)
>
>
>
> What limited God from using a literal 24 hour period of time? Even if the
> sun and moon had not yet been created - does it limit God from keeping
> with in the frame work of a literal 24 hour period of time?
>
> Miguel
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- From: "DAVID POWELL"
> <dpowellaz@...>
>
> > The description is used to divide creation into 6 periods. Moses used >
> > the
> > only example he had in his vocabulary and mindset. The proof is that he
> > uses the same word that he used to signify each of the "days" of >
> > creation to
> > signify the entire period of creation. It was God's will that creation >
> > be
> > divided into 6 periods. Why He didn't He just say it took one period of
> > time altogether? I haven't got the slightest idea! A straightforward
> > reading of the English translation lends itself to a 24 hour period but
> > > a
> > straightforward reading of the Hebrew does not necessarily do so! When >
> > the
> > writers use idioms it is just in conjunction with their vocabulary and
> > linguistic traditions.
> > Pastor David
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Sigafoos"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Palm Sunday?????? ( Luke 22/Mark 11)
> >
> >
> > Thanks David. But could you answer my question please: Why did God
> > make the distinction between days 1 to 3? Why didn't God say that all
> > that occurred between Genesis 1:1 and 1:13 occurred on one long day?
> >
> > Where there is no matter, there is no time. Once God said "Let there
> > be" anything, then time came into existence. Once time exists then it
> > can be measured. What remains to be determined is how long an
> > interval existed between the first morning and the second morning. A
> > straightforward reading of the text would suggest 24 hours. When the
> > Bible uses idioms, it uses them to clarify meaning, not obscure it.
> > (OK, now I'm taking sides) :-)
> >
> > On 2/17/06, DAVID POWELL wrote:
> > > There was not a literal evening and morning during the first three > >
> > > days of
> > > creation because there was not Sun or Moon. It is an idiomatic
> > > expression.
> > > It was a method of expressing the passage of time in such a way that >
> > > > the
> > > Jewish readers of the Pentateuch could understand.
> > > Pastor David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > -- >
> >
> > Grace and peace,
> > Kevin Sigafoos
> > --------------------- > For from him and through him and to him are all
> > things. To him be
> > glory forever. Amen. (Rom 11:36)
> >
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