David W said,
Again Jerry, you read into what was said.

If I do, ...and that is debatable, ...  then I must be taking lessons from a 
real expert on "reading between the lines,  ... Mr David W.

Hey David, ... again I ask the question, ... the one that has never yet been 
properly answered in this thread, ... How do you discern what is worldly 
behavior?  Where do you draw the lines on worldliness regarding those things 
that the Bible does not speak about?  What are the guidelines? Just to say 
"the Bible is the standard" is a "cop out," ... because the Bible does not 
address many things that religious people claim is "worldly."

Is it worldly to go fishing on Sunday afternoon?  Is it wrong for the men's 
brotherhood to go deep sea fishing for a weekend, returning Sunday night? 
Is it wrong to have a slumber party at church, with kids sleeping in 
sleeping bags in the sanctuary?  Is it wrong for teenagers to go to the 
beach or a pool party  together?  Is it wrong for high school students to 
attend the school prom?

The Amish people would accuse all Baptists of being worldly .... anyone who 
uses electrical machinery.....  Are they right????

Just to say that "cutting the grass on Sunday afternoon,"  and other 
generalizations similar to that, is "worldliness" doesn't cut it. 
Traditional attitudes of a pious sort towards practices and actions among 
people  ... that are not based on the Bible CANNOT be accurately categorized 
as being worldly.

"Here's looking at you, ... kid!!!"  :-)  Do you know who that quote came 
from????  I wonder if anyone ever prayed for his salvation and witnessed to 
him....

Jerry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pastor David Warner" <dwarner@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] How do you define worldliness?


> Again Jerry, you read into what was said.  The subject was worldliness
> and/or Christian living--not worship services.
>
> DW
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry [mailto:jelewis@...]
>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 9:12 AM
>> To: pastorsforum@...
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] How do you define worldliness?
>>
>> David W,
>>
>> You said,
>> The Bible makes it very plain that we are to march to a
>> different drum.
>>
>> I did not think that you used drums in worship.....
>>
>> I am glad to see that you do believe in them.
>>
>> I  "march to the beat of a different drum" too.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Warner" <dwarner@...>
>> To: <pastorsforum@...>
>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] How do you define worldliness?
>>
>>
>> > The Bible makes it very plain that we are to march to a
>> different drum.
>> > We are not to march in the devil's parade, yet we seem many
>> doing it.
>> > Paul tells us how to keep from conforming to this present
>> world.  This
>> > includes our dress, our thoughts, our speech, our actions,
>> our priorities
>> > and even our financial goals.  It begins in the mind or
>> heart.  You cannot
>> > think wrong and live right. And, you can live right and be
>> thinking of
>> > this world and longing for it.  Demas left Paul because he
>> loved this
>> > present world (2 Tim. 4:10)  That's worldliness!
>> >
>> > David Warner
>> >
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>> liberty; and in all
>> > things, charity."
>> >
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