Jeff, I need you to explain a little more. You see, the context seems to support my conclussion. Derick > as a great reformed preacher said "context, context, context" > > On 6/19/06, Derick R. Dickens <Derick@...> wrote: >> >> Jeff, >> >> You can say you disagree, would you please give us rationale for your >> reasoning. You see, in Greek, the gift must go back to a word in the >> nominative case. There are only two such words in that sentence. Yet, >> Greek is more pointed than that in that section. He is correct that in >> Greek Grammar it has to go to the nearest nominative case word. THat is >> faith. You can't just say, "This is what I believe and I am sticking to >> it." You have to provide rationale. > > > > > Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with > Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) > Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in > heavenly places in Christ Jesus: > Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of > his > grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. > Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of > yourselves: it is the gift of God: > Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. > Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good > works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. > > > > Derick >> >> > Bro Steve, I disagree, I believe the "gift" of Eph. 2:8,9 is >> Salvation. >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all > things, charity." >