i am divorced, and the reasons for that divorce are bibical - and personal - and i pastor a church :) there is no "bibical" stance against a divorced man pastoring a church :) pax jok --- Pastor Hughes <embc@...> wrote: > thanks for your candid honesty > > you mentioned your girl friend likes your style > > and that you have a daughter..... > > I am curious....does your theology embrace > divorced men pastoring churches.... > > just curious..... > > I am trying to figure out how liberal you really are > :) > > and how much de-construction you have done thus > far.... > > sincerely > Pastor Hughes > East Mesa Baptist Church > http://www.azboss.net/~embc/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: john okeefe <jxpxus@...> > To: <pastorsforum@...> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] pulpit swapping? > > > > pastor hughes - > > > > if you truly are reaching this generation cool :) > > that is what youi are called to do and i think > that is > > great. as far as me "visiting" and being welcomed > - > > most churches whould say i was welcomed - until i > > walked in :) not to say yours is like that - if i > > would be welcomed, very cool, i like that too :) > > > > yes, i would consider myself a "liberal" compared > to > > most on this list - i do not use the kjv, i drink, > i > > do not think dress matters, i see most, of not > all, of > > what the church does as tradition, but i believe > 100% > > in jesus christ - died for my sins and his blood > saves > > me :) > > > > pax > > jok > > > > > > --- Pastor Hughes <embc@...> wrote: > > > John of ginkworld. > > > > > > you said you would not be welcomed at my church? > > > you could attend any services!!!! > > > > > > but if you mean preach in our pulpit....now that > is > > > another issue.... > > > if you came and I introduced you as you > described > > > yourself in > > > your posts that could scare the folks in the > pew... > > > > > > ie... > > > > > > you said you were a postmodern liberal type that > was > > > non-conservative > > > in theology and are tattooed and pierced and > like > > > rock music...(this is your own description of > > > yourself taken from your posts) > > > > > > if I allowed you in the pulpit I would be scared > to > > > death of what you might say > > > in addition to (Jesus loves you and so do i) its > the > > > fringe stuff that the folks > > > would not be able to swallow.... > > > > > > but if the audience was full of non > christians....or > > > those who have rejected the traditional church > and > > > its biblical teachings .....they wouldnt have a > > > problem with your > > > > > > theology....dress.....tatoos.....piercings.....music.....or > > > your doctrine.....in fact they would like it was > hip > > > and cool because it is soooooo different. it > would > > > be like de-constructing the old church > model.....for > > > them anyway.... > > > > > > if I had more time I could tell you about my > > > church....every sunday we have > > > tatooed and pierced > > > visitors....yup....druggies....single > > > moms....elderly.... > > > even my deacons got tatoos....yup.....came to > church > > > hung-over and got saved....and > > > yup...conformed to the image of christ..... > > > > > > so if you want to talk about culturally relevant > or > > > reaching todays generation head-on > > > we can do it....if fact we are doing > it....without > > > deconstructing or changin a thing > > > doctrinally or compromising anything. > > > > > > I'll be back > > > Pastor Hughes > > > East Mesa Baptist Church > > > http://www.azboss.net/~embc/ > > > > > > > > > ===== > > john o'keefe > > http://www.ginkworld.net > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. > Try it! > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential > things, liberty; and in all > things, charity." > > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential > things, liberty; and in all things, charity." > ===== john o'keefe http://www.ginkworld.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/