Let's bring them up to a civilized level and not be "dumbed" down to theirs. There is a proper way to speak. Let's teach, train, lift up and not stoop. David W -----Original Message----- From: john okeefe [mailto:jxpxus@...] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 3:46 PM To: pastorsforum@... Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] why your church.... david - if i looked at you and said "dude, bogus wake - spank down 'n powder." you might not know what i mean :) but if i said to you - "david, i believe you came to the wrong conclusion and i was hoping you would be more reasonable about it" - that you would understand - but they mean the same things :) words are 100$ cultural. here are just a few examples (and i am certian others can think of more): bloody dog chick wag slide spank most of these words you would have no problem using in a your daily speaking - if you said, "that guy was all bloody" it would have a whole different meaning depending on who you were talking too :) what you see as a "cuss" word may not be so in my community - the word "sucks" is a great example of that - it is not "as bad" as your community things, in my community - since the article wqs designed for people in my community - no problem. but i will say, i actually had a very conserative church in texas use the article (they did ask if they could change the word) for there state wide conference. i think, when it comes to words, we need to speak to the people we are trying to reach - it is undertanding them and meeting them where they are and not where you want them to be :) pax jok --- Pastor David Warner <dwarner@...> wrote: > Sure those word are in the Bible but so is God and > Jesus but it is wrong to > go around using the profanely! By the way, if the > damn is in the KJV I > can't find it. Where is it? I won't pick that for > my Scripture reading > Sunday. > David W > -----Original Message----- > From: iggy [mailto:iggy@...] > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:02 PM > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] why your church.... > > > Pastor Keeter, > > Hmmm, > Isn't the word h___ in the Bible? I think > though, it's supposed to > be hot. > Unless one is referring to Dante's H___. It, > in it's lower levels > was a frozen lake. Kind've like how Pastor Powell > referred to about the > "Frozen Chosen". Only for the really bad guys that > went to a non traditional > church. > > Also damn, piss, hell, and dung are all in > the KJV. Did you hear the > one about the 2 sisters in Ezekiel whose lovers were > hung like donkeys? > > If God can say it can't it be that bad....if > used in the proper > context to make the point needed. > > Words have meaning, add meaning, but only if > understood. > > iggy > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: pastorsforum@... > Date: 01/29/04 20:45:11 > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] why your > church.... > > Bro John, > > I think you ahve already answered my > questioN! > "Cuss" curse, use profanity. > Profane- against whats right. "Cold as H___" > It aint cold! etc. > The Bible calls it "Froward"- directs away. > Much modern slang is this. It is verbal > garbage- useless and > misdirecting. > Soem is just plain profane- misusing Gods > name- taking in vain- 3rd > commandment. > Abbreviations that mean the same . > > I sit oK for a Christian to use R rated > words? > Even the world finds them offensive. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john okeefe" <jxpxus@...> > To: <pastorsforum@...> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] why your > church.... > > > > define "cuss" for me :) words are all > cultural - what > > you see as a "cuss" may not be one in my > world - and > > what you see as "normal" may be a "cuss" > in my world. > > it is all relative :) > > > > pax > > jok > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click > Here > ===== john o'keefe http://www.ginkworld.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity."