[pastorsforum] Re: [PastorsForum] Church Says Women Shouldn't Teach Men

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From: "Kevin Sigafoos" <ksigafoos@...>
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:40:32 -0400
On 8/22/06, michael ray tittle, dds <drmike1@...> wrote:
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> 1. Rachel (Genesis 30:24)

And she called his name Joseph, saying, "May the LORD add to me
another son!" (Gen 30:24)
Help me, Mike, how is naming a baby a prophecy?

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> 2. Miriam (Exodus 15:20)

Already addressed.  Miriam repeats Moses' prayer to the women.

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> 3. Deborah (Judges 4:4)

Where's her prophecy?  Where's the "thus saith the Lord?"  It says
that Deborah was "a prophetess, the wife of Lappidoth,"  Prophetess
means the "wife of a prophet" and this verse clearly says that Deborah
was the wife of Lappidoth.  Therefore Lappidoth was the prophet.

Egalitarians love to trot out Deborah as the poster child for women
leadership.  Yet what is the primary lesson to be learned from
Deborah.  God shames Barak through Deborah because he refused to do
his God-assigned leadership duty.

Note what Deborah says "And she said, "I will surely go with you.
Nevertheless, the road on which you are going will not lead to your
glory, for the LORD will sell Sisera into the hand of a woman." Then
Deborah arose and went with Barak to Kedesh." (Jdg 4:9)

God uses a woman to shame a man into doing what he was supposed to do
all along and this is the role model we are supposed to follow???

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> 4. Huldah (2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chron. 34:22)
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OK, Huldah does say "thus saith the Lord."  But also note that the
text identifies her as the "wife of Shallum the son of Tikvah."  Also
note that this story, like Deborah in Judges, takes place during a
rebellious time in Israel's history.

> 5. Noadiah (Neh. 6:14)

Where's her word?
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> 6. Isaiah's wife (Isaiah 8:3)

Clearly the wife of a prophet.  What word did she speak?  If getting
pregnant is the role of a prophetess, then I'm all on board.  :-)

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> 7. Elizabeth (Luke 1:41-45)

Elizabeth is not called a prophet and she doesn't utter any prophecy.
The Lord does give her insight into the baby that Mary is carrying,
but I never said that God couldn't speak TO a woman.
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> 8. Mary, mother of Jesus (Luke 1:46-55)

May doesn't claim to be a prophet.

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> 9. Anna (Luke 2:36-38)

Anna, the daughter of Phanuel.  If she spoke prophetic words, then why
are they not recorded in Scripture?

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> 10. Jezebel, a false prophetess (Rev. 2:20)

Plenty of those around.

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> 11-14. Phillip's four daughters (Acts 21:9)

If they were prophets then why aren't their words recorded?  Why did
God send Agabus to give the word that Paul would be imprisoned if
there were four prophetesses there already?



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Grace and peace,
Kevin Sigafoos
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For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be
glory forever. Amen. (Rom 11:36)