John would this be situational ethics? just me living in a postchristian world..... Pastor Hughes East Mesa Baptist Church http://www.azboss.net/~embc/ ----- Original Message ----- From: john okeefe <jxpxus@...> To: <pastorsforum@...> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] why your church.... > i have no problem excluding words that one finds > offensive - but that depends on the community - not > other communities :) we determine what words are > offensive to us, not you :) if you find a wored > offensive - then in your community it should not be > used - but if my community does not find it offensive, > then it can be used :) > > pax > jok > > > --- John Keeter <jmkeeter@...> wrote: > > So are any words forbidden? > > > > Colossians 4:6 Let your speech be alway with grace, > > seasoned with salt, > > that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "john okeefe" <jxpxus@...> > > To: <pastorsforum@...> > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:46 PM > > Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] why your church.... > > > > > > > david - > > > > > > if i looked at you and said "dude, bogus wake - > > spank > > > down 'n powder." you might not know what i mean > > :) > > > > > > but if i said to you - "david, i believe you came > > to > > > the wrong conclusion and i was hoping you would be > > > more reasonable about it" - that you would > > understand > > > - but they mean the same things :) > > > > > > words are 100$ cultural. here are just a few > > examples > > > (and i am certian others can think of more): > > > > > > bloody > > > dog > > > chick > > > wag > > > slide > > > spank > > > > > > most of these words you would have no problem > > using in > > > a your daily speaking - if you said, "that guy was > > all > > > bloody" it would have a whole different meaning > > > depending on who you were talking too :) > > > > > > what you see as a "cuss" word may not be so in my > > > community - the word "sucks" is a great example of > > > that - it is not "as bad" as your community > > things, in > > > my community - since the article wqs designed for > > > people in my community - no problem. but i will > > say, > > > i actually had a very conserative church in texas > > use > > > the article (they did ask if they could change the > > > word) for there state wide conference. > > > > > > i think, when it comes to words, we need to speak > > to > > > the people we are trying to reach - it is > > undertanding > > > them and meeting them where they are and not where > > you > > > want them to be :) > > > > > > pax > > > jok > > > > > > > > > --- Pastor David Warner <dwarner@...> > > > wrote: > > > > Sure those word are in the Bible but so is God > > and > > > > Jesus but it is wrong to > > > > go around using the profanely! By the way, if > > the > > > > damn is in the KJV I > > > > can't find it. Where is it? I won't pick that > > for > > > > my Scripture reading > > > > Sunday. > > > > David W > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: iggy [mailto:iggy@...] > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:02 PM > > > > To: pastorsforum@... > > > > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] why your > > church.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Pastor Keeter, > > > > > > > > Hmmm, > > > > Isn't the word h___ in the Bible? I > > think > > > > though, it's supposed to > > > > be hot. > > > > Unless one is referring to Dante's H___. > > It, > > > > in it's lower levels > > > > was a frozen lake. Kind've like how Pastor > > Powell > > > > referred to about the > > > > "Frozen Chosen". Only for the really bad guys > > that > > > > went to a non traditional > > > > church. > > > > > > > > Also damn, piss, hell, and dung are all > > in > > > > the KJV. Did you hear the > > > > one about the 2 sisters in Ezekiel whose lovers > > were > > > > hung like donkeys? > > > > > > > > If God can say it can't it be that > > bad....if > > > > used in the proper > > > > context to make the point needed. > > > > > > > > Words have meaning, add meaning, but > > only if > > > > understood. > > > > > > > > iggy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > > > > > From: pastorsforum@... > > > > Date: 01/29/04 20:45:11 > > > > To: pastorsforum@... > > > > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] why your > > > > church.... > > > > > > > > Bro John, > > > > > > > > I think you ahve already answered my > > > > questioN! > > > > "Cuss" curse, use profanity. > > > > Profane- against whats right. "Cold as > > H___" > > > > It aint cold! etc. > > > > The Bible calls it "Froward"- directs > > away. > > > > Much modern slang is this. It is verbal > > > > garbage- useless and > > > > misdirecting. > > > > Soem is just plain profane- misusing > > Gods > > > > name- taking in vain- 3rd > > > > commandment. > > > > Abbreviations that mean the same . > > > > > > > > I sit oK for a Christian to use R rated > > > > words? > > > > Even the world finds them offensive. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "john okeefe" <jxpxus@...> > > > > To: <pastorsforum@...> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:44 > > AM > > > > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] why your > > > > church.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > define "cuss" for me :) words are all > > > > cultural - what > > > > > you see as a "cuss" may not be one in > > my > > > > world - and > > > > > what you see as "normal" may be a > > "cuss" > > > > in my world. > > > > > it is all relative :) > > > > > > > > > > pax > > > > > jok > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > > > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - > > Click > > > > Here > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > john o'keefe > > > http://www.ginkworld.net > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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