Bill, Two of my three children sit in the service without any problem, and our preacher preaches for 45 minutes or more. THe only problem is our youngest who is one years old. We do have a place for those 4 and younger. For those training their children to sit through a service have reserved pews at the back of the sanctuary so if there is a problem they can remove the children promptly. We have a church of about 200 and I cannot think of one time in the last year that there was a major disruption in the service. It is all about how you train your children. If you train them to be wiggly and not able to sit through the service, they won't. If you train them to sit through the service and be still, they will. Bill, I also agree with DW. Would you allow a person to be a member of your church who did not publically profess in a Biblical manner their belief in Christ? BTW, I do disagree with DW in the sense your idea is new. It has been tried before and I contend it will lead to things like the halfway covenant... which destroyed churches in the 1700's. Derick > > > > _____ > > From: Bill burns [mailto:burnswh@...] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:28 PM > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Children's Church > > > > Isn't it a part of the situation a child's ability to concentrate and sit > still as long as a adult. As many of you know a 3-12 year olds can't sit > for 2 mins let alone an hour. I think their service should be age > appropriate. Having children disrupt a service is a dis-service we all > know > that. > > > > Another point to think about is that many churches dont think a person is > a > part of the church membership until baptized. Not Biblical, but just a > thought. > > > > Bill Burns > > "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...> wrote: > > We can't keep lumping SS together with worship in this discussion. There > is > no biblical mandate for SS but there is a biblical mandate for corporate > worship. Corporate worship is just that "corporate", i.e. everyone > together > - gathered, called out, the body of Christ, even Covenant community. I > love > Paul's letter to the Ephesians - In 1:1 Paul says he is writing to the > "saints" who are at Ephesus (the saints are obviously the members of the > church or churches there). But then in 6:1 Paul speaks directly to the > Children (Obey your parents). If the Ephesian children were in Children's > church they would have missed this communication of the Apostle Paul to > them > when it was read in the gathered assembly. (see the same in Colossians > 1:2 > and 3:20). I agree children need to have things explained. This is a > great > burden for us as ministers (simplify the message). And Parents also have > the role to insure (later after the service) that the children understood > what was said in the message. > > Peace, > Steve > > Dpowellaz2@... wrote: > > In a message dated 11/2/2006 5:01:43 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > bctexan@... writes: > > What about churches who have "Spanish church", "Chinese church" etc..... > in > other parts of their building at the same time. > > If folks don't know the languages and "tongues" are not for today, how > will > they hear the gospel in their language? > > Jeff > > that is a very good point Jeff. Out here there are many churches that > offer > more than one language centered services. They are all part of the same > church but their is a need for the service to be given in such a way as > they > can understand. This is exactly the point of having a Children's Church! > > BTW, there are no mandates as to how we are to do this. The bible does > not > say how these things were done. Much is left up for our interpretation. > If > we want to really get picky then there is no example of a separate Sunday > School portion of the church any where in the bible. Also, the women > would > not qualify since they are supposed to be taught at home! (grin) To say > that Sunday School, Children's Church, Multi-language services and such > are > unbiblical is way off line! > > Doc > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... To > unsubs cribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > > > > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > ++ Pastor Steven G. Rockhill Lisbon Reformed Presbyterian Church PO Box > 88 Lisbon, NY 13658 315-393-9041 revrock@... > http://lisbonrpc.port5.com <http://lisbonrpc.port5.com/> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > + > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... To > unsubscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... > > To unsubscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... >