[pastorsforum] RE: [PastorsForum] WHY NAME NAMES?

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From: "David Warner" <dwarner@...>
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:14:56 -0500
Actually, I've heard from several people and so I have really taken it to
heart.  
I don't recall this ever happening before.  I'm trying to think if any of
these that did email me privately were IFB and I don't know.  I think I did
get one from a motel as he was traveling but then, maybe he posted to the
whole list too.
Anyway, I appreciate you guys--all of you!

DW



-----Original Message-----
From: Steven G. Rockhill [mailto:revrock@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:08 AM
To: pastorsforum@...
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] WHY NAME NAMES?

Wow, DW must be getting his inbox filled with advice from a lot of 
folks.  Dean I sent something similar.  Good post.

Pax,
Steve

Dean West wrote:
> Jerry,
> I wish to express a personal opinion here.  As one Southern Baptist to 
> another, and with all due respect, you are being absurd in your 
> criticism of David.  In  my opinion, the minute scrutiny in this post 
> is certianly adequate proof.  David gave credit for the article, 
> although it may not be to your satisfaction.   I've encouraged him 
> privately to just not respond to such posts from you and others. 
>  .    
> I might add that I agree with Lee's assessment.   The nature of this 
> forum and its participants will obviously bring disagreement, 
> sometimes heated disagreement.  When the tempers rise, how about 
> writing the post and then  hitting the delete button instead of 
> sending it.   
>  
> Dean
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jerry <jlew@...>
> To: pastorsforum@...
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2007 11:41:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] WHY NAME NAMES?
>
> Steve,
>
> How about Calvary Contender???
>
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~contendr/1999/9-1-1999.html 
> <http://home.hiwaay.net/%7Econtendr/1999/9-1-1999.html>
>
> Or  Independent Fundamental Premillennial Missionary Baptist News & Views
> ... who credited it to Calvary Contender ????
>
> http://www.tbaptist.com/aab/nv909.htm
>
> Both are dated Sept. 1999 and begin with:
> WHY NAME NAMES?-Some say "criticize teachings, not the teachers," but we
> can't always separate the two.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven G Rockhill" <revrock@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] WHY NAME NAMES?
>
>
> > Jerry,
> > I think he named names:
> >> An article in the 6/99 Vanguard discusses this:
> > Pax,
> > Steve
> >
> > Jerry wrote:
> >> DW,
> >>  Is this your material, are you the author of it, .... or did you 
> take it
> >> from a web site without credit???
> >>
> >>     ----- Original Message -----
> >>     *From:* David Warner <mailto:dwarner@...>
> >>     *To:* PastorsforumAssociate Com <mailto:pastorsforum@...>
> >>     *Sent:* Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:15 PM
> >>     *Subject:* [PastorsForum] WHY NAME NAMES?
> >>
> >>     *WHY NAME NAMES?
> >>     *Some say "criticize teachings, not the teachers," but we can't
> >>     always separate the two. An article in the 6/99 Vanguard discusses
> >>     this:
> >>
> >>     1.   It is Biblical to name names. Paul did it positively to
> >>     commend ministries (1 Cor. 16, Phil. 2:25, Col. 4), and negatively
> >>     to warn against ministries (1Tim.1, 2 Tim. 4). John also was
> >>     specific (3 Jn. 9,10).
> >>
> >>     2.   It is consistent to name names negatively if we are happy
> >>     about praising people positively (e.g., biographies of Luther,
> >>     Spurgeon, Wesley). Is it not equally just to speak as clearly
> >>     about men who are instrumental against God? And when we write, we
> >>     identify men not that you might hate them, but rather that you
> >>     might "beware" of them (2Tim. 4:15).
> >>
> >>     3.   It is practical to name names. Sadly, people often follow
> >>     preachers [big name personalities] rather than preaching [and,
> >>     thus to warn such people, we must name names].
> >>
> >>     4.    It is historical to name names. Throughout church history,
> >>     men have not shrunk from clearly stating against whom they are
> >>     objecting, as well as against what.
> >>     But in our day, "not hurting people's feelings" often seems more
> >>     important than "speaking the truth in love."
> >>
> >>
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