That's easy PRESBYTERIANISM and rule by a plurality of elders. Pax, Steve David Warner wrote: > > Can you give what you think is the Biblical model? > > > > D Warner > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Jerry [mailto:jlew@...] > *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:58 PM > *To:* pastorsforum@... > *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Hillary for Pres. > > > > No. Neither type is best or Biblical. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* David Warner <mailto:dwarner@...> > > *To:* pastorsforum@... <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:51 PM > > *Subject:* RE: [PastorsForum] Hillary for Pres. > > > > Of the two types you mentioned, is there one you feel is best and > Biblical? > > > > D Warner > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Jerry [mailto:jlew@...] > *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:46 PM > *To:* pastorsforum@... <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Hillary for Pres. > > > > Jeff, > > > > Just because you were "taught" to believe something does not make > it so, or that that is the practice of others. > > > > There are many extremes in church life that are indicative of > people being out of balance. Both are great hindrances to God > moving in the life of a congregation. > > > > One is a pastor-dominated church where the pastor takes an > authoritative role and runs the church like a tyrant. > > > > The other is a deacon-dominated church where the deacons think it > is their responsibility to control everything that happens and to > keep the preacher in line. Did you hear the story about the deacon > praying for his pastor in church???? He prayed, "Lord, You keep > Brother Pastor humble, ... we'll keep him poor." > > > > Many new church starts are set up with the pastor, his wife, and a > couple of trusted friends as the officers of the corporation, just > because of a fear of being taken over and controlled by others > with a different agenda than the mission of Christ. > > > > Jerry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Jeff Hallmark <mailto:bctexan@...> > > *To:* pastorsforum@... > <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:29 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Hillary for Pres. > > > > Hummmm > > On 1/20/07, *Jerry* <jlew@... > <mailto:jlew@...>> wrote: > > Jeff, > > > > I guess you think more churches are run by deacons than by > preachers .... ??? > > > > I thought I was clear > "I was taught to believe that a Pastor led a church!" > > jeff > > > > > Just a few years ago, a church near where I live > dismissed their pastor saying, "When we started this > church we said we would run it like we wanted to run it ..." > > > > Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Jeff Hallmark <mailto:bctexan@...> > > *To:* pastorsforum@... > <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:39 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Hillary for Pres. > > > > Bahahahahahaaaa > > On 1/20/07, *Rev Jerry Martin* <revjmx@... > <mailto:revjmx@...>> wrote: > > **Why would a woman be quailified to run the country > when, according to some, a woman is not quailified to > run a church??????????** > > > Jerry Martin, are you saying that a Pastor runs the > church? > > I was taught to believe that a Pastor led a church! > > A number of countries have had women leaders. Not > saying it is a good thing, just the facts. > > jeff > > > > > > Rev Jerry Martin > Exodus Christian Worship Center > Winston-Salem, NC > 336-806-1188 > > -- "Jerry" < jlew@... > <mailto:jlew@...>> wrote: > > > > Hillary is the ONLY one running who has "on- the- > job experience"!!!! > > > > 1) Do y'all think the country is ready for a > woman president? > > > > 2) Would you vote for a woman to be president? > > > > 3) Would you vote for a Mormon running against > Hillary for president? > > > > Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Charlie Carroll Jr > <mailto:carrollbigcjr@...> > > *To:* pastorsforum@... > <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2007 5:07 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Hillary for Pres. > > > > And no I don't think Hillary would not make a > good president > > here because of Jesus > Charlie > Phil 4:13 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Jerry <mailto:jlew@...> > > *To:* pastorsforum@... > <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2007 12:52 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Hillary for > Pres. > > > > Watch for the dirt to come out on Obama > .... Hillary is a pro ... or at least she > utilizes pros to do the smearing .... > > > > Don't you think Hillary will make a great > president???? > > > > Jerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Dean West > <mailto:ldw45@...> > > *To:* pastorsforum@... > <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > > *Sent:* Saturday, January 20, 2007 > 12:30 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] Hillary > for Pres. > > > > Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!! Don't give them > any more ideas. > > > > If I was a betting man.......... > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Steven G. Rockhill < > revrock@... > <mailto:revrock@...>> > To: pastorsforum@... > <mailto:pastorsforum@...> > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 > 11:14:17 AM > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Hillary > for Pres. > > I just wish that when someone who > currently holds a political office > runs for another office that they must > give up the first one. It should > be an interesting race between Hillary > and Obama - all the hype and > attention will be on their "minority" > status. If they wanted to do it > right the winner would ask the loser > to be running mate. > > Pax, > Steve in NY > > Jeff Hallmark wrote: > > > > > > Hillary launches historic bid for > president > > > > > > > > > > Hillary Clinton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Associated Press > > > > Published: Saturday, January 20, 2007 > > > > NEW YORK -- Democratic Senator > Hillary Rodham Clinton embarked on a > > widely anticipated campaign for the > White House on Saturday, a former > > president's wife intent on becoming > the first female president. "I'm > > in and I'm in to win," she said on > her website. > > > > -- > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Pastor Steven G. 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