Actually I had ordained/appointed there all the time - here is my reply a while back to Art: > To answer your question - how about everyone who baptized was ordained > by the laying on of hands or appointed by Christ Himself (the apostles)! The great commission was given to the church, not individuals - the church consists of duly ordained leadership and members (laity). Each have a function and role. The Church is to go forth, the church is to disciple, the church is to baptize and the church is to teach the commandments. Pax, steve Dpowellaz2@... wrote: > In a message dated 1/30/2007 9:57:41 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > revrock@... writes: > > Doc, > How is this bad hermeneutics? I assume you are referring to "by > precept > and example". There are many things that are not explicitly taught > but > we learn by "precept and example" - e.g. the Trinity. But in > denouncing > my hermeneutics you have not even offered anything to base your > opinion > on - you mention Ananias - but what do we know about Ananias - He > was a > disciple and he was in the Church in Damascus - maybe he was an > average > joe-member or maybe he was an ordained officer. But if that is your > only example - there are far more examples of those > ordained/appointed > baptizing than those not. BTW In my first post I said "ordinarily" > which does leave open for the rare extraordinary case - but this > is the > exception not the rule. > > Pax, > Steve > > Steve, now you add ordained/appointed! I asked you to show me one > example of an ordained Pastor baptizing and you can't because it is > not there. As for the trinity it is taught by more than just > precept. God created, Jesus Created, Jesus said that the paracletos > will be the same as He! It is a stretch to say that Ananias "may be" > an ordained officer! Why would it be an exception? If the authority > for the ordinance rests with the local church then it is up to the > local church as to whom can baptize. The Great commission was not > given to just Apostles and Pastors, Elders and Bishops. If it was > then it is not for believers today. We don't even have scriptural > evidence that Phillip was baptizing under the authority of the church > in Jerusalem. BTW, what church was the Ethiopian going to join and > participate in? I am really not trying to argue with you about this > but all I am trying to show is that in all of our churches there are > things we do or don't don not based on the Bible but on tradition! > > Doc > > */Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!/** * > (*Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!*) > Pastor David Powell > > To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... > > To unsubs > cribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > > > -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Pastor Steven G. Rockhill Lisbon Reformed Presbyterian Church PO Box 88 Lisbon, NY 13658 315-393-9041 revrock@... http://lisbonrpc.port5.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++