[pastorsforum] Re: [PastorsForum] How Christmas Evans Became a Baptist

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From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:04:59 -0400
Wow That's pretty brutal but could come in handy.  You could even 
technically put someone in "time out" for a while.  Thanks Gary thanks 
for the info.  I use Thunderbird and I just looked and they have a 
similar feature. 

Peace,
Steve

Gary Webb wrote:
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> GARY WEBB
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Jerry <mailto:jlew@...>
>     *To:* pastorsforum@... <mailto:pastorsforum@...>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2007 11:42 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] How Christmas Evans Became a Baptist
>
>     Jeff,
>      
>     Jerry, you sure seem proud of this 'muddog' campbellite.
>     Is that the only way you can respond to his points, ....an insult?????
>      
>     "Proud"???  .......  "Muddog Campbellite" ?????
>      
>     ..............
>      
>     There are people who also say, "The Bible makes Pentecostals" ....
>      
>     Jerry
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:* Jeff Hallmark <mailto:bctexan@...>
>         *To:* pastorsforum@...
>         <mailto:pastorsforum@...>
>         *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:12 AM
>         *Subject:* Re: [PastorsForum] How Christmas Evans Became a Baptist
>
>         Jerry, you sure seem proud of this 'muddog' campbellite.
>
>
>
>
>         On 3/13/07, *Jerry* <jlew@...
>         <mailto:jlew@...>> wrote:
>
>              
>             The title of this piece is interesting ..... "T*he Bible
>             Makes Baptists"*
>              
>             Consider another perspective, ....  Bob Felkner wrote
>             this, posted
>             on http://www.truthmagazine.com/archives/volume20/GOT020346.htm
>             <http://www.truthmagazine.com/archives/volume20/GOT020346.htm%20>
>              
>             Now, I do not agree with all of Mr Felkner's thoughts
>             here, or in the whole article, but find them interesting
>             in light of the statement "T*he Bible Makes Baptists."  *
>             ** 
>             Do remember that I am Baptist, but let me go on record 
>             that I despise sectarian pride.  There are God-loving,
>             committed disciples of Christ in many different
>             denominations and groups.
>              
>             Jerry
>             PS:  This is not an endorsement of Bob Felkner or Truth
>             Magazine.
>             ** 
>             ** 
>             *"Almost thou persuadest me to be a . . . "*
>
>             Baptists are wrong when they conclude that the Bible makes
>             Baptists. From the Baptist book, we hear the following
>             statements: "The Bible has'a tendency to turn men toward
>             the Baptist position" (Odle, p. 94). "I believe that
>             anybody who gets hold of a New Testament, reads it, and
>             obeys it is very likely to come out of that experience a
>             Baptist" (Odle, p. 24) . . . . . . every doctrine of the
>             New Testament is Baptist doctrine" (Odle, p. 93).
>
>             It would be nice for them if they could turn to Acts 26:28
>             and read, "Almost thou persuadest me to be a Baptist." But
>             they cannot read that in the New Testament; furthermore,
>             they cannot read of anyone ever being "a Baptist." John,
>             the son of Zacharias and Elisabeth, was known as "the
>             Baptist," not "a Baptist." He was called this because he
>             was "the baptiser" or the one who baptized (Mk. 6:14, 24,
>             ASV). He was not a Baptist preacher, and he was not a
>             member of the Baptist church, but it does mention the
>             church that Christ built. John the Baptist was never a
>             member of the church that Christ built because he was dead
>             before it was established. In Matthew 14:10, we read that
>             Herod "beheaded John in the prison," and in Matthew 16:18
>             (two chapters later), Jesus promised to build the church.
>             John was never a member of the Baptist Church, and Paul
>             never persuaded anyone to become a Baptist, and that is
>             why I am not a Baptist. I had rather be a member of the
>             church that Christ built and wear the name that shows my
>             relationship to Him.
>
>             ..... Baptists are guilty of preaching doctrines other
>             than that which the apostles preached, and that is why I
>             am not a Baptist.
>
>             In his conclusion he states:
>             Baptist words and Baptist doctrines have been compared
>             with the words of the New Testament, and there is an
>             impressive difference between them. I have attempted to
>             make an honest presentation of the truth. If Baptists will
>             be just as honest in their acceptance of this truth, they
>             will cease to be Baptists.
>              
>             I agree with the Baptist preacher who said: "This day in
>             which we live, beloved brothers and sisters, is no day for
>             dillydallying, or shillyshalling, by mealymouthed
>             preachers. It is the day of all days for no stammerer in
>             the pulpit or an insipid, spineless, and convictionless
>             Christian in the pew" (Odle, p. 117).
>
>              
>
>              
>             ** 
>
>                 ----- Original Message -----
>                 *From:* Jeff Hallmark <mailto:bctexan@...>
>                 *To:* pastorsforum@...
>                 <mailto:pastorsforum@...>
>                 *Cc:* OpenPastorsForum@...
>                 <mailto:OpenPastorsForum@...>
>                 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2007 4:41 PM
>                 *Subject:* [PastorsForum] How Christmas Evans Became a
>                 Baptist
>
>
>
>                 	
>
>                 	
>
>                 *The Bible Makes Baptists*
>                 Christmas Evans, a Welsh Baptist preacher, was born on
>                 Christmas day in 1766.  He preached fervently and
>                 effectually to the Welsh people from about 1787 his
>                 death in July 1838.  He gives the following account of
>                 how he became a Baptist. 
>                  
>                 "A person of the name of Amos had left the
>                 (Presbyterian) church at Liwynrhyodwn, and had been
>                 baptized at Aberduar.  He came to see me, and I began
>                 to assail the Anabaptist heresy, as I had been
>                 accustomed to consider it.  But Amos soon silenced
>                 me.  I attributed my defeat to my ignorance of the New
>                 Testament, and therefore began to read from the
>                 beginning of Matthew, to prepare myself for the next
>                 interview.  Having read the New Testament through, I
>                 found not a single verse in favor of Paedobaptism
>                 (i.e. baptizing infants).  I met frequently with
>                 passages in the Old and New Testaments referring to
>                 the circumcision and naming of children, their
>                 bringing up in the 'nurture and admonition of the
>                 Lord,' etc. but with none making any mention of their
>                 baptism; while about forty passages seemed to me to
>                 testify clearly for baptism on a profession of faith. 
>                 These scriptures spoke to my conscience and convinced
>                 me of the necessity of personal obedience to the
>                 baptism which Christ had ordained.  After a little
>                 struggle between the flesh and spirit, obedience and
>                 disobedience, I applied to the Baptist church at
>                 Aberduar.  I was cordially received."  
>                  
>                 This took place in the summer of 1787, four years
>                 after his conversion.  At age twenty, he was baptized
>                 in the river Duar by Timothy Thomas.
>
>                 Hey, Dean me thinks I beat you to the posting,  hehehehehe
>
>
>                 -- 
>                 Bro. Jeff Hallmark
>                 www.sprucelandbaptist.com
>                 <http://www.sprucelandbaptist.com>
>                 http://baptist-potluck.blogspot.com/
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