Steve,
You should have known .... a Black man would not have a Kingsnake for a pet.
:-)
I have been called a "blue-eyed soul brother."
My favorite James Brown song is "Say it Loud!" Are you familiar with that
one???? What is your favorite James Brown song????
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven G Rockhill" <revrock@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Re: [offlist] Re: [PastorsForum] Secret
Society - see any missing??
> Wow!!! I am really astonished. All along these several years I have been
> on the forum I thought Jerry L. was a black man! :-[
> I have to agree with Kevin here - nothing good has come from the KKK.
> Christian and KKK (though they may be together in the official name) do
> not belong together.
>> 1 John 2:9 9 He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is
>> in darkness until now.
>> 1 John 2:11 11 But he who hates his brother is in darkness and walks in
>> darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has
>> blinded his eyes.
>> 1 John 3:15 15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know
>> that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
>> 1 John 4:20 20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he
>> is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can
>> he love God whom he has not seen?
> Peace,
> Steve
>
>
>
> Kevin Sigafoos wrote:
>> I am bringing public an offlist conversation between Jerry and me. Jerry
>> has given me permission to do so.
>> Background: I thought that Jerry's comment on PF that the KKK was not a
>> criminal organization was meant as a joke. He did not mean it that way.
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/07, *Jerry* <jlew@...
>> <mailto:jlew@...>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Now, please note, ... I am not a Klan "defender." I am
>> not in the Klan, nor have I ever been in the Klan, ....
>> nor do I have any Klan sentiments at all. I am totally
>> against the KKK and I am against racial bigotry and
>> prejudice in every form, whether it be the Klan or the
>> NAACP. I believe every person and race should be treated
>> with decency and fairness.
>> However, ....
>> The Klan is not a "criminal" organization. They are
>> law-abiding citizens. Some of them may have unkind
>> thoughts and attitudes toward others (this is a purposeful
>> understatement) but thoughts are not at this time "criminal."
>>
>> I suppose that technically you are right, Jerry. It is not a crime to
>> belong to the KKK. The fact that they are allowed to publicly march and
>> proclaim their views is testament to their legality.
>> I object that to your statement that they are "law-abiding citizens",
>> however. The purpose of the KKK is to promote bigotry and racism. They
>> have endorsed, promoted and perpetuated violence, murder, and
>> intimedation to make their views known. The whole point of their being a
>> secret organization is that their methods are illegal.
>> Now, I am not saying that every member of the KKK has burned a cross on
>> some one's lawn or has lynched a man in a tree. But their association
>> with other's who have done these atrocious acts speaks of their agreement
>> with these acts. It is analogous to someone being a member of Al-Qaeda.
>> Being a Muslim does not necessarily make one a member of Al-Qaeda, just
>> as being a racist does not necessarily make one a member of the KKK. But
>> belonging to Al-Qaeda, a secret organization of Muslim's who use violence
>> to promote their beliefs, makes that person a terrorist --
>> even if he has never personally carried out a terrorist act. Similarly,
>> belonging to the KKK, a secret organization of racists who use violence
>> to promote their beliefs, makes that person implicit in the acts of those
>> who use murder and violence against people of other races.
>> It is not necessary to carry out a terrorist act in order to be guilty
>> of breaking the law. The recent arrest of some Muslim men who planned to
>> murder our service men and women at Fort Dix, NJ (My old backyard!
>> Scary!) points to this fact. Similarly, being a member of the KKK means
>> agreeing with their views and approving of their methods and, therefore,
>> guilty of murder and terrorism.
>>
>> Some of the people I know who are or were in the Klan are church
>> members.
>>
>> This is a disgrace! I would not tolerate this in my congregation for one
>> minute!
>> Jesus said, "You have heard that it was said to those of old, 'You shall
>> not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.' But I say to
>> you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to
>> judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and
>> whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire." (Mat
>> 5:21-22 ESV)
>>
>> How can a church tolerate unrepentant murderers in it's midst?
>>
>> Remember the full name of the Klan state that they are the
>> "Christian Knights ..."
>> It is a disgrace to the name of Christ to place His name in any
>> association with an organization such as the KKK. There is nothing
>> Christian about them in the slightest.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Grace and peace,
>> Kevin Sigafoos
>> ---------------------
>> For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory
>> forever. Amen. (Rom 11:36)
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