Ah bless you and thanks.

Interesting that Roberston is inconsistent in his use of the article.  It
is also interesting that he believes in works salvation.  I didn't realize
that.  Oh well, no one is perfect, save one.  Grab Lenski and run with it.
<grin>

Blessings,
Randy

> *Thanks, Kevin. *
>
> *Here is a couple of quotes from E-Sword.*
>
> *Again, not everyone believes the gift is Faith.*
>
> * *
> **
>
> *Clarke*
>
>
>
> *Eph 2:8* -
>
> *For by grace are ye saved, through faith - *As ye are now brought into a
> state of salvation, your sins being all blotted out, and you made
> partakers
> of the Holy Spirit; and, having a hope full of immortality, you must not
> attribute this to any works or merit of yours; for when this Gospel
> reached
> you, you were all found dead in trespasses and dead in sins; therefore it
> was God's free mercy to you, manifested through Christ, in whom ye were
> commanded to believe; and, having believed by the power of the Holy
> Spirit,
> ye received, and were sealed by, the Holy Spirit of promise; so that this
> salvation is in no sense of yourselves, but is the free gift of God; and
> not
> of any kind of works; so that no man can boast as having wrought out his
> own
> salvation, or even contributed any thing towards it. By grace arc ye
> saved,
> through faith in Christ. This is a true doctrine, and continues to be
> essential to the salvation of man to the end of the world.
>
> But whether are we to understand, faith or salvation as being the gift of
> God? This question is answered by the Greek text: τῃ γαρ
> χαριτι εστε
> σεσωσμενοι δια της πιστεως· και τουτο
> ουκ εξ ὑμων· Θεου το δωρον, ουκ εξ
> εργων· ἱνα μη τις καυχησηται· "By this grace ye
> are saved through faith;
> and This (τουτο, this salvation) not of you; it is the gift of God,
> not of
> works: so that no one can boast." "The relative τουτο, this, which is
> in the
> neuter gender, cannot stand for πιστις, faith, which is the
> feminine; but it
> has the whole sentence that goes before for its antecedent." But it may be
> asked: Is not faith the gift of God? Yes, as to the grace by which it is
> produced; but the grace or power to believe, and the act of believing, are
> two different things. Without the grace or power to believe no man ever
> did
> or can believe; but with that power the act of faith is a man's own. God
> never believes for any man, no more than he repents for him: the penitent,
> through this grace enabling him, believes for himself: nor does he believe
> necessarily, or impulsively when he has that power; the power to believe
> may
> be present long before it is exercised, else, why the solemn warnings with
> which we meet every where in the word of God, and threatenings against
> those
> who do not believe? Is not this a proof that such persons have the power
> but
> do not use it? They believe not, and therefore are not established. This,
> therefore, is the true state of the case: God gives the power, man uses
> the
> power thus given, and brings glory to God: without the power no man can
> believe; with it, any man may.
>
>
>
>
> * *
>
> *Barnes*
>
> *
> It is the gift of God - *Salvation by grace is his gift. It is not of
> merit;
> it is wholly by favor.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *PNT*
>
>
> *Eph 2:8-10* -
>
>
> *For by grace are ye saved through faith*. Lest they might forget the
> doctrine that he ever preached, he reminds them that works of the law
> never
> saved them; that they were saved by God's grace shown in the gospel; that
> this salvation was obtained through the faith. The definite article is
> found
> before faith in the Greek, showing that *the* faith, or the gospel, is
> meant.
>
>
>
> *It is the gift of God*. The salvation is not due to ourselves, but is
> God's
> gift. The grammatical construction of the Greek does not allow us to make
> "faith" the subject of the last clause. It is not "faith," but salvation
> through the faith, which is the gift of God. So says John Wesley in his
> Notes: "This refers to the previous clause, *That you are saved,* etc."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *RWP*
>
>
>
> *Eph 2:8* -
>
> *For by grace* (*tēi gar chariti*). Explanatory reason. "By the grace"
> already mentioned in *Eph_2:5* and so with the article.
>
> *Through faith* (*dia pisteōs*). This phrase he adds in repeating what
> he
> said in *Eph_2:5* to make it plainer. "Grace" is God's part, "faith" ours.
>
> *And that* (*kai touto*). Neuter, not feminine *tautē*, and so refers
> not
> to *pistis* (feminine) or to *charis* (feminine also), but to the act of
> being saved by grace conditioned on faith on our part. Paul shows that
> salvation does not have its source (*ex humōn*, out of you) in men, but
> from God. Besides, it is God's gift (*dōron*) and not the result of our
> work.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *VWS*
>
>
>
> *Eph 2:8* -
>
> *For by grace, etc.*
>
> This may truly be called *exceeding* *riches* of grace, *for* ye are saved
> by grace. *Grace* has the article, *the* grace of God, in *Eph_2:5*, *
> Eph_2:7*.
>
> *And that*
>
> Not *faith*, but *the* *salvation*.
>
> *Of God*
>
> Emphatic. *Of* *God* is it the gift.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Kevin Sigafoos <ksigafoos@...>
> wrote:
>
>> Randy,
>>
>> Just FYI, Jeff is KJV-Only.  He has no interest in learning Greek.  To
>> him,
>> the KJV is more inspired than the original languages.  Sad, but true.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:19 PM, <shieldwolf@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Get into the Greek, my friend, and it will clarify that for you.
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>> Randy
>>>
>>
> --
> Bro. Jeff Hallmark
> www.sprucelandbaptist.com
> http://baptist-potluck.blogspot.com/
>