http://www.cafepress.com/larknews/3958822 > Actually, I'm not sure that is true. They're all pretty much on fire. > Again, there are Millions more Lutherans in Africa than in the US and > Europe and Lutheran missions to Africa is only 150 years old. > > I think we need to be careful about the "I worship better than you" or the > "My theology is better than yours" syndromes. I think that is part of why > the church in North America is so hosed up. We gave up our focus on > Christ and the Cross and instead focused on all these "important" and yet > perirpheral issues. The main thing is: What will you do with Jesus. > > Blessings > Randy > >> And the fastest growing churches in Africa and South America are >> Pentecostal and Charismatic. >> >> Jerry >> "So Abraham prayed to God; and God healed Abimelech, his wife, and his >> female servants. Then they bore children" (Gen 20:17). >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Shieldwolf >> To: pastorsforum@... >> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Nathan Finn, Prof at SEBTS, on SBC decline >> >> >> There is decline almost everywhere in almost every denomination...in >> NORTH AMERICA. >> >> Now, check out Latin America and Africa which are in revival. :) >> There are more Lutherans in Africa than in the US and Europe combined. >> >> Blessings, >> Randy >> >> Derick Dickens wrote: >> Jerry, >> >> According to the statistics both are true. There is a decline in >> Baptisms and a decline in church membership. >> >> Derick >> >> >> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Jerry <jlew@...> wrote: >> >> Is there "decline" in the SBC or is there a decline in growth in >> the >> SBC? The issue that I have been reading about is a decline in >> baptisms in the SBC, which would seem to point to a fewer number of >> new members coming in. >> >> I think the stated membership numbers are still over 16 million >> for >> the convention. >> >> Of course, I have commented in the past how I think these figures >> are overstated or inflated. We have a lot on members on the roles of >> SBC churches that cannot be located. >> >> Yet, the number of members of Southern Baptist churches and the >> number of churches continues to rise. >> >> Jerry >> "And it happened that the father of Publius lay sick of a fever >> and >> dysentery. Paul went in to him and prayed, and he laid his hands on >> him and healed him. 9 So when this was done, the rest of those on >> the island who had diseases also came and were healed" (Acts >> 28:7-9). >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Steven G. Rockhill >> To: pastorsforum@... >> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Nathan Finn, Prof at SEBTS, on SBC >> decline >> >> >> Doc and Bill, >> I am amazed that you automatically would turn this into a >> personal attack on Derick. All he did was post some comments >> that he agreed with about a reality in the SBC (apparently there >> is a declining trend). I am sure many people have many >> different reasons as to why this decline is happening. Derick >> posted the thoughts of someone with whom he agreed. Decline in >> the SBC is a newsworthy item, I don't understand how that merits >> your attack on Derick's integrity. Did you even read what was >> posted or go to the original link from whence it came? Or did >> you just rush to an attack because Derick posted it. Come on >> men, stop being so petty! Why don't you just stick to >> commenting on the issue at hand (and the comments on the issue)? >> Why do you think there is a decline in the SBC? Does it matter >> to you that there is a decline? Are you a decline denier? >> >> Peace, >> Steve >> >> Dpowellaz2@... wrote: >> In a message dated 5/4/2008 9:04:32 A.M. US Mountain Standard >> Time, burnswh@... writes: >> Derick, you never fail to amaze me. Being a non >> denominational( not a Baptist), I'll bet I could find at least >> three good articals about the SBC if I tried. >> >> You, being Baptist( I guess) find all the bad articals you >> can >> and post them. What's your point? Time and time again you >> find or, IMO, actually look for negatives. In other posts, >> you want their help in some way. What's with that? >> >> Bill >> It does seem contradictory doesn't it? Before Derick went to >> the Association or state , not sure which it was, and was turned >> away basically, I may be wrong but his tenor has been completely >> different. Before Derick almost seemed like a SBC >> Apologeticist. After, the atmosphere was totally different. I >> presume Derick is reading this. I had never experienced the >> negative side of Him before. I must say, it really surprised me >> when Derick was the first to come right out and call me ignorant >> but I still love him through the ignorance. I haven't seen >> anything good come from Derick about the SBC in quite a while. >> But then maybe my perception is colored by my ignorance! >> Doc >> >> Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua! >> (Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!) >> Pastor Dr. David Powell >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family >> favorites at AOL Food. >> >> >> To subscribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-join@... >> >> To unsubs >> cribe, send a message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Pastor Steven G. 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