Yes, brother, it does help. Good to know that you understand that just because the carton says 'baptist,' doesn't mean it is. Glad to see you back up a little on: "...usually if the carton says milk you get milk when you open the spout and pour it out." I am guessing you would not claim to be in the same carton as all of the other baptists I mentioned? Aha my friend. You say something interesting. "...and hold to the baptist distinctives which are bible > distinctives and adhere to baptist doctrine which is bible doctrine...." ----How is a person to know what a baptist distinctive is?? Derick has his thoughts Kevin has his ideas Doc shares his beliefs Jerry L. proclaims his Baptist distinctives David W. yells them some times You make fun of most the rest of them. SO, WHICH ONE IS RIGHT? jerry k ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pastor Hughes" <embc@...> To: <pastorsforum@...> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Cant you see this church? > jerry wrote... > > SO I GUESS I AM TO ASSUME > THAT YOU AS A BAPTIST, AND THE REST OF THE BAPTIST ARE OF THE SAME CARTON > cause of your label 'baptist?' > jerry k > > Group em all together....thats a great deduction... > yep...no difference in them at all... > > > well you would be better off assuming I am a baptist not only because of > the name on the carton but also because I am a bapist pastor...and a > member of a baptist church that actually has the name on it....and am > ordained a baptist minister and hold to the baptist distinctives which are > bible distinctives and adhere to baptist doctrine which is bible > doctrine...so yes you can safely assume I am a baptist.... > cause I aint presby...or penecostal....or non denom...or interdeno...I am > earnestly contending for the faith ...I am baptist by conviction and > christian by birth...the second birth...and I am not ashamed of the name > even tho others may have brought disgrace on it...many people have > disgraced their family name by doing and saying things that didnt bring > honor to their family... I have a baptist heritage....baptiize the baptist > way and eat pot luck like any good baptist .....heheheeheh > > as far as grouping those other famous baptist agitators together....there > is a slight difference there between them and John the Baptist......and > hopefully me... > > you see....John agitated the devils crowd....which I seem to do sometimes > as well.... > those you named dont seem to bother the devil at all.... > in fact alot of what they are doing seems to be exactly what the devil > likes to see happen.... > > hope this helps > bro fidwell > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jerry Krewson" <pastorjerry@...> > To: <pastorsforum@...> > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:09 AM > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Cant you see this church? > > >> brother, >> I guess that puts you in with some other famous baptists agitators: >> >> Rick Warren, now he is sure stirring up some religious leaders >> Fred Phelps stirs up everybody >> John MacA surely stirs up some of the preachers and theologians >> Old Pat Roberson can still agitate now and again >> Tony Campolo can even agitate and frustrate me >> >> So if agitating and frustating a lot of folks is where you fit in, well, >> you do have company. But then again, ain't none of them really in the >> mold of John the Baptist. >> I was just thinking. The Pope sure stirs up folks, and he does frustrate >> a lot of folks. But then, he is of Peter, not JTB, so he doesn't count. >> >> Oh well, you did duck the point of the carton pouring out the same stuff. >> That is unless you do believe you and the folks mentioned in the last >> post are from the same carton as you?? But then again, you do argue for >> the label giving you a good idea of what is in the carton. SO I GUESS I >> AM TO ASSUME THAT YOU AS A BAPTIST, AND THE REST OF THE BAPTIST ARE OF >> THE SAME CARTON cause of your label 'baptist?' >> jerry k >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pastor Hughes" <embc@...> >> To: <pastorsforum@...> >> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Cant you see this church? >> >> >>> Jerry wrote.. >>> >>> >>> So what are you, pastor? >>> >>> WELL.... >>> >>> PILGRIM ...I GUESS IF I HAVE TO BE HONEST >>> WITH YOU.... >>> >>> I WOULD FIT REAL GOOD WITH THE JOHN THE BAPTIST TYPES.... >>> >>> WHY YOU ASK...????? >>> >>> MAYBE BECAUSE HIS PREACHING AND TEACHING AND STANDS SEEMED TO AGITATE >>> AND FRUSTRATE ALOT OF FOLKS TOO >>> THE RELIGIOUS CROWD AND THE UNSAVED TOO... >>> >>> BUT ...AS YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY >>> >>> THEY FINALLY SILENCED HIM.... >>> >>> YEP CUT HIM RIGHT OFF AT THE NECK... >>> >>> HE WAS THE FOUNDER OF THE >>> 'CHARGER BAPTIST FAITH' >>> >>> HE WAS A HEAD OF HIS TIME... >>> >>> HEHEHEHHEH >>> BRO FIDWELL >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jerry Krewson" <pastorjerry@...> >>> To: <pastorsforum@...> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Cant you see this church? >>> >>> >>>> Brother, >>>> I don't know if I buy that milk or not??? You see, it is kinda hard >>>> because on just this little forum I have witnessed some 'baptists' >>>> bashing other 'baptists' for being soooo wrong, confused, and almost >>>> labeling each other as NOT REAL BAPTISTs. If you are not IFB, ABX, >>>> PBY, NOT, SBC, XYZ, you are not.... >>>> >>>> Often times you guys can't even agree what a real baptist is. Several >>>> of you, not all, but several can tell each other what a baptist IS NOT, >>>> but not what one real is. So when you say names "they just tell you >>>> what and who they are..." and you bash other baptist as being sooo >>>> wrong on sooo many things, you defeat your own premise. >>>> >>>> So what are you, pastor? A Jerry Falwell baptist--a Fred Phelps >>>> baptist--a Billy Graham baptist--a Albert Mohler baptist--maybe a Mike >>>> Huckabee baptist--a Jesse Jackson baptist--a John MacArthur--could be a >>>> Rev. Al baptist, maybe? -------Now let me see, you did say "but usually >>>> if the carton says milk you get milk when you open the spout and pour >>>> it out." Oops, wasn't Kathryn Kuhlman an ordained baptist preacher? So >>>> pastor, do you come out of the same carton as the afore mentioned? >>>> jerry k >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Pastor Hughes" <embc@...> >>>> To: <pastorsforum@...> >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:28 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Cant you see this church? >>>> >>>> >>>>> labels are good >>>>> >>>>> the label usually tells you whats inside >>>>> >>>>> not to say some churches are missed labeled >>>>> >>>>> but usually if the carton says milk you get milk when >>>>> you open the spout and pour it out >>>>> >>>>> hope this helps >>>>> >>>>> fidel the baptist >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Jerry Krewson" <pastorjerry@...> >>>>> To: <pastorsforum@...> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 5:26 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Cant you see this church? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> So, Pastor, >>>>>> Are you saying that if it has the name 'Baptist' in the name you know >>>>>> what you are getting? >>>>>> jerry k >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Pastor Hughes" <embc@...> >>>>>> To: <pastorsforum@...> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:50 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Cant you see this church? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> yes names arent that important... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> they just tell you what and who they are.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thats why many churches are dropping names from their >>>>>>> marques....generic..... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> just go to the medicine cabinet and grab a bottle with no name on >>>>>>> it.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you dont know what youre getting... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> kinda like alot of churches today...with no name >>>>>>> they dont know what they are getting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sincerely >>>>>>> pastor hughes >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: <shieldwolf@...> >>>>>>> To: <pastorsforum@...> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:40 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Cant you see this church? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They had bishops, too! So, I suppose even if you have people that >>>>>>>> perform >>>>>>>> such a function, that if you do not have those with such a name, >>>>>>>> then it >>>>>>>> is not a "true church" for some out there? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blessings, >>>>>>>> Randy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Church at Philippi had deacons!!!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phi 1:1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> saints >>>>>>>>> in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi,* with the bishops and >>>>>>>>> deacons: * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:03 PM, <Dpowellaz2@...> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 6/19/2008 11:35:01 A.M. US Mountain Standard >>>>>>>>>> Time, >>>>>>>>>> dwarner@... writes: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Where does this called out assembly meet and who is the pastor >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> deacons?* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *DW* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We are a local assembly and we do not have deacons nor will we >>>>>>>>>> ever. >>>>>>>>>> Does that mean we are not a church? >>>>>>>>>> Doc >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Shalom Alechem...Barukh Hashem Y'shua!* >>>>>>>>>> (*Peace and Blessings in Jesus' name!*) >>>>>>>>>> Pastor Dr. David Powell >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> Gas prices getting you down? 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