Thank you, Charles. I appreciate those comments. Blessings, Randy > Let me be a voice of reason. > I know and have experienced revival, been slain in the Spirit, have seen > astounding miracles and knows God still does signs and wonders. > I answered off the top of my head and need to add one more point about > real revival. > 5. Will always bring Glory to Jesus and not the man. > Language that is used in some of the videos bother me. > I have not been to this revival, nor intend to go. > I know God uses imperfect people. > I know that Spectacular Revivals draw a lot of criticism by "outsiders" > I do not want to put down a real "move of God." > I do not want to endorse a sham. > If it is of God it will prosper, if not it will fail, the proof is in the > living not in the sign. > > Rev. Charles Cockroft > Associate Pastor > First Assembly of God, Denison, Texas > A Church Without Walls > > > > From: Jerry Lewis > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:30 AM > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Have you ever been in a Pentecostal service? > > > Charles, > > I tend to agree with your thoughts expressed here. > > There are things about Bentley that do concern me, yet he is boldly > proclaiming the gospel of Christ and people are getting saved. > > The "do" rag and the tats seem very sloppy for a preacher. > > Yet what was portrayed in the video has been occurring in Pentecostal > revival services for many, many years. Maybe not "typical" in the sense of > every service, but not uncommon either. It is nothing new. > > I have learned to pray with my eyes wide open when praying around some > Pentecostals or Charismatics, ... if they start shouting and or shaking, I > can get out of their way ...... :-) > > Jerry > > "And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen > years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself. And > when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou > art loosed from thine infirmity. And he laid his hands on her: and > immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.(Luke 13:11-13) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JoynCharles > To: pastorsforum@... > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:08 AM > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Have you ever been in a Pentecostal service? > > > Jerry, > This was not just a typical Pentecostal service. > I don't much like this preacher, I believe that some things are done in > the excitement of the moment. > There is real marks of revival. > 1. The Word is preached > 2. People are saved. > 3. People are baptized. > 4. Signs are following after the Word. > > Just some old time Pentecostal thoughts on "revival". > > Rev. Charles Cockroft > Associate Pastor > First Assembly of God, Denison, Texas > A Church Without Walls > > > > From: Jerry Lewis > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:39 AM > To: pastorsforum@... > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Have you ever been in a Pentecostal service? > > > Hey Jeff, > > Haven't you ever been in a Pentecostal service before??? > > BTW, don't you just love his tats??? > > Jeff, do you accept that there will be tongues-speaking Pentecostals and > Charismatics in heaven alongside independent Baptists???? > > Jerry > > "And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity eighteen > years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself. And > when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman, thou > art loosed from thine infirmity. And he laid his hands on her: and > immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.(Luke 13:11-13) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeff Hallmark > To: doctrinaldebate ; pastorsforum@... > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:11 AM > Subject: [PastorsForum] Todd Bentley video > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTsYSR9kEeg&eurl= > > -- > Bro. 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