[pastorsforum] Re: [PastorsForum] Music is Never "Neutral"

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From: "David Warner" <dwarner@...>
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:48:08 -0400 (EDT)
> Excuse Me??????
>
You're excused.  Everyone overlooks things from time to time.


> You have?????
>
Yes

> ... and there are UFO colonies on the dark side of the moon ....
>
> Jerry

I don't know, I've never been there or read that there was.

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Warner" <dwarner@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 4:19 PM
> Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Music is Never "Neutral"
>
>
>>I have answered all questions I've been asked, so obviously you either
>>don't
>> like the answers or it wasn't the answer you wanted or you chose to be
>> less
>> than truthful about the answer.  Which is it Randy?
>>
>> DW
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shieldwolf@... [mailto:shieldwolf@...]
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 3:48 PM
>> To: pastorsforum@...
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Music is Never "Neutral"
>>
>>
>> Jerry:  You have keen knack for stating the obvious in response to
>> DW...of
>> course...so do I!
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Randy
>>
>>> DW,
>>>
>>> You are highly skilled in the art of avoiding the answering of direct
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>> "And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity
>>> eighteen
>>> years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.
>>> And
>>> when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman,
>>> thou
>>> art loosed from thine infirmity. And he laid his hands on her: and
>>> immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.(Luke 13:11-13)
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: David Warner
>>>   To: pastorsforum@...
>>>   Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:52 AM
>>>   Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Music is Never "Neutral"
>>>
>>>
>>>   Jerry said:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   SS is just as much "in the church" as the auditorium.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   David Responds:
>>>
>>>   Jerry, you misunderstand the word and meaning and purpose of
>>> "church".
>>> It is not a building or an auditorium.  See previous discussions on
>>> "church", especially the ones I have given you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   DW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>>
>>>   From: Jerry Lewis [mailto:jlew0@...]
>>>   Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 9:28 AM
>>>   To: PastorsForum
>>>   Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Music is Never "Neutral"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   DW,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   >>>>There are no women preaching in our Sunday School.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Are women allowed to speak in your church????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Are  they permitted to sing and use their voices in song???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Do you impose silence upon them?????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   If you permit women to speak in your SS, aren't you inconsistent
>>> with
>>> your interpretation of 1 Cor 14:34-35 ????  The verses do not say
>>> "preach" .... but they do say "speak."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   SS is just as much "in the church" as the auditorium.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Jerry
>>>
>>>   "And, behold, there was a woman which had a spirit of infirmity
>>> eighteen
>>> years, and was bowed together, and could in no wise lift up herself.
>>> And
>>> when Jesus saw her, he called her to him, and said unto her, Woman,
>>> thou
>>> art loosed from thine infirmity. And he laid his hands on her: and
>>> immediately she was made straight, and glorified God.(Luke 13:11-13)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>   From: "David Warner" <dwarner@...>
>>>
>>>   To: <pastorsforum@...>
>>>
>>>   Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:04 AM
>>>
>>>   Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Music is Never "Neutral"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   There are no women preaching in our Sunday School.
>>>   We'll keep the women we have and thank God for them.
>>>   We have no women preacher preaching to the church at all.
>>>
>>>   DW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>   From: Bill burns [mailto:burnswh@...]
>>>   Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 10:08 PM
>>>   To: pastorsforum@...
>>>   Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Music is Never "Neutral"
>>>
>>>   Doc....Get the horse out.  Praise and worship to some on this forum
>>> is
>>>   striaght out of the 1800's and has little to do with,"Sing to the
>>> Lord
>>> a
>>> new
>>>   song."  Or, with praising Him with the trumpet, stringed
>>> instruments,
>>>   timbrel, the pipe, and resounding cymbals.  The Book of Psalm isn't
>>> in
>>> their
>>>   vocabulary
>>>
>>>   And while I'm at it.  Women preachers...We've entrusted the feeding
>>> of
>>> the
>>>   Word to women for many many years in Sunday school.  Children are
>>> the
>>>   foudation of a church when it comes to a Christian upbring.  Now,
>>> some
>>> would
>>>   say they shouldn't preach.  Hmmmm.  Then to those who don't think
>>> women
>>>   should preach, I say get them out of the Sunday school!
>>>
>>>   Bill Burns
>>>   Old Town Soup Kitchen
>>>   600 Gratiot St.
>>>   Saginaw, Michigan 48602  989.791.4549 or cell 989.220.6228
>>>
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