God did not make man sinful.  God made man "very good".  But the 
disobedience which led to the Fall of Man in the Garden plunged Adam, 
Eve and all future generations into a state of bondage to sin.  I don't 
see where pride, selfishness, greed, envy, lust etc are used in a 'right 
way'.  Can you explain that for me?

Peace,
Steve

mwcarnes wrote:
> Did not God make us the way we are. Are not these emotions, attributes or
> feeling that He gave us. Used in the right way they are not sinful
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
> To: <pastorsforum@...>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] worldliness in the churches
> 
> 
> 
>>Pride, selfishness, greed, envy, lust etc.  They are all desires of the
>>sinful heart of man and are not 'God given'. They are sinful even before
>>they are 'misused' (acted upon).  I think this is what Jesus was getting
>>at in Matthew 5:21ff.
>>
>>Peace,
>>Steve
>>
>>mwcarnes wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Expaine a little more in detail please. mwc
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
>>>To: <pastorsforum@...>
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:18 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] worldliness in the churches
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In some sense that may be true but I know of a whole lot of desires that
>>>>are not "God given" but are sinful even before they are 'misused'.
>>>>
>>>>Peace,
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>mwcarnes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I was told that SIN was the misuse of a God given blessing or desire.