There is not verse in the Bible that says to read and study and memorize the Bible. But Psalm 119:11 and 2 Timothy 2:15 would lead me to say, "we are to read and study and memorize the Bible." That's not tradition, it's Bible. There is no verse in the Bible that says the Lord is going to rapture believers but 1 Thess. 4:13-18 would lead me to say exactly that. David Warner -----Original Message----- From: J [mailto:jelewis@...] Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 10:26 PM To: pastorsforum@... Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] defeating the darkness Bro. Delmer, The issue in question was the phrase, "die to self" not "die daily." I asked if this was in the Bible or was it a tradition. We make too many statements of tradition in church life today that is not founded on the Bible. I think this is a good example of that. There are several verses that sound similar but they still do not say "die to SELF." (Capitals are my emphasis.) The Bible says that we are crucified with Christ, nevertheless, we LIVE!!! But I am still searching for a Bible verse that says we are to "die to self." Thanks for your help! Jerry L. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delmer G. Lawson" <delgene@...> To: <pastorsforum@...> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] defeating the darkness > I am not J, but will endeavor to answer your question, "Where does it say > in the Bible that we die daily?" > > The answer is found in 1 Corinthians 15:28-34. > "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall > the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, > that > God may be all in all. > Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, > if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? > And why stand we in jeopardy every hour? > I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus > our Lord, I die daily. > If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at > Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and > drink; > for to morrow we die. > Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good > manners. > Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not > the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame." > > This is not speaking directly of the two natures, but when you couple > this with Romans 6, GA. 2:20; Colossians 3:1-16; Ephesians 2:1-10, et al; > we get the clear teaching that we are to bring our old man (i.e., the > sinful nature) under subjection. 1 Corinthians 9:24-27. > > "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one > receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. > And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate > in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an > incorruptible. > I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not > as one that beateth the air: > But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: > lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should > be a castaway." > > Trust this has answered your question. The Christian is in a > constant warfare between the flesh and the spiritual walk to which the > Lord has called us. Romans 8:1-10. > > "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in > Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. > For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath > made me free from the law of sin and death. > For what the law could not do, in that it was weak > through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful > flesh, and > for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: > That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in > us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. > For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of > the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. > For to be carnally minded is death; but to be > spiritually minded is life and peace. > Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it > is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. > So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. > But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so > be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the > Spirit of Christ, > he is none of his. > And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of > sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." > > Because of Calvary, yours, > Delmer G. Lawson > > Jesus loves you, and I do too > > -- > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... > > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity." > > -- To unsubscribe, send ANY message to: pastorsforum-unsubscribe@... "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all things, charity."