"About twelve years ago the Southern Baptist Convention issued a statement declaring the teachings of Freemasonry incompatible with Christianity. That statement was appropriate. I was disappointed, though, that the statement DID NOT encourage Christians to withdraw from the Lodge." The author of that report was Gary Leazer, who was at that time with the Center for Interfaith Studies at the SBC. Gary also wrote a book about his "ordeal" of putting the report together. The book is titled "Fundalmentalism and Freemasonry" you really, really, really, should read the book before taking any stance on the SBC report. Here is a little something else Gary Leazer has put together...by the way...he is now a Mason... A FEW FAMOUS FREEMASONS Bro. Gary Leazer, 32° Atlanta, Georgia, Scottish Rite Bodies Masonic Report, Center for Interfaith Studies Masonic critics would have a difficult time living in the world today if they tried to avoid anything with which Masons have had a part. For example, Ralph Bellamy, who wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, was a Mason. Frederick A. Bartholdi, a Mason, designed the Statue of Liberty, while father and son Gutzon and Lincoln Borglum, both Masons, carved Mt. Rushmore. Aviator Charles Lindbergh was a Mason. Daniel Carter Beard, a Mason, founded the Boy Scouts of America. Melvin Jones, a Mason, founded the Lions International. All four founders of the Future Farmers of America were Masons. Dave Thomas, a Mason, founded Wendy's. Harland Sanders, a Mason, started Kentucky Fried Chicken. Dr. Charles Mayo, a Mason, co-founded the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. Dr. Alexander Fleming, a Mason, was a developer of penicillin. Dr. Edward Jenner, a Mason, developed the small pox vaccine. Roy Rogers and John Wayne, America's favorite cowboy actors, were Masons. Gene Autry, also, is a Mason. General Lewis Wallace, who wrote Ben Hur, and William Wyler, who directed the movie Ben Hur, were both Masons. Maytag appliances are named after Frederick Maytag, a Mason. James C. Penney, founder of the department store chain, was a Mason. David Sarnoff, a Mason, was president of RCA and urged the formation of NBC. He also led in the development of color television. A brand of vacuum cleaners is named after Frank Hoover, a Mason. Henry Ford, Walter Chrysler and Ramson Olds, all Masons, have cars named after them. The Gillette safety razor was named after King Gillette, a Mason. Sebastian S. Kresge, a Mason, founded S. S. Kresge (now K-Mart Corporation). He set up the Kresge Foundation with grants now totaling about $640 million. Houston, Texas, where the 1993 Southern Baptist Convention met, is named after a Mason, Sam Houston. I doubt there are very many places we could visit, food we could eat, medicine we could take, places we could shop, or things we could do in which Masons have not been a significant part. Even basketball, one of our most popular national pastimes, was invented by a Mason, James Naismith. -----Original Message----- From: J [mailto:jelewis@...] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 4:44 PM To: pastorsforum@... Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Masons James, I am very disturbed, not by the Masons in general, but by Christians or church members who are Masons. I see it as divided loyalties between the True Master (the Lord Jesus Christ) and the "Master" of the lodge. The statement, "My highest obligation is to obey the voice of the Master" is a defining point. Which Master is supreme for the Christian Mason? Also, I have a problem with a Christian who will get down on his knees and refer to another human being as "Worshipful Master." Is it appropriate for a believer in Christ to allow a blindfold (hoodwink) to be placed over his eyes, a blue rope (cabletow) tied around his neck, and then be led around the room knocking on doors to claim he is in darkness and is seeking the light???? Is it proper to call unsaved lodge members "brother" and give them preference over and above my brothers in Christ??? Why does the Mason swear an oath to not commit sexual immorality with a fellow Mason's wife, mother or sister (implying that it is OK with a non-Masons' wife, mother or sister??? What about sexual immorality period??? Does the "Christian Mason" believe that following Hiram Abiff can admit the Mason into the celestial lodge or does he need Jesus in his heart in order to get into heaven? Is the Christian Mason concerned about the "great commission of Christ or is he busy spreading the message of light through the institution of Freemasonry??? (I have NEVER known anyone who was active in Freemasonry to be involved in leading people to Christ. If there are any out there, I have not met them or even been told of them.) What about racial issues? If Masonry is about brotherhood among men and light, as I have been told by Masons, then why is there a separate Masonic group for black people (Blue Lodge for white and Prince Hall Lodge for nonwhites [actually, I have been told Prince Hall will accept whites also])??? What about telling falsehoods? The Mason swears an oath to "forever conceal and never reveal" the secrets of Freemasonry. Does that mean it is OK for a Christian Mason to lie in order to evade truth in regard to Masonry??? I have had Masons tell me outright lies about their beliefs and practices. I have also been given verbal invitations to join the Lodge. As you can see, there are many issues that speak to me regarding the DANGER of being involved with the Lodge. About twelve years ago the Southern Baptist Convention issued a statement declaring the teachings of Freemasonry incompatible with Christianity. That statement was appropriate. I was disappointed, though, that the statement DID NOT encourage Christians to withdraw from the Lodge. In my opinion, this was a political move to avoid a split in the denomination. Because of this, many, many Christians remain in the darkness of the Lodge, blinded by a false light. For some excellent resource links regarding Freemasonry: See the NAMB Belief Bulletin regarding Freemasonry at: http://www.namb.net/root/evangelism/iev/mason.asp See Ex Masons for Jesus at: http://www.ephesians5-11.org/ex_masons_for_jesus/ See Saints Alive Resource Files on Freemasonry at: http://www.saintsalive.com/freemasonry.html See Ephesians5:11 web site at: http://www.ephesians5-11.org/ Jerry Lewis Southside Baptist ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Brown" <ifeelgod@...> To: <pastorsforum@...> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: [PastorsForum] Masons > Dear Saints > > Since we have not had much conversation lately, let me pose this question. > > What is your feeling on Masonic lodges and Eastern Star? > > Should Christians be masons? > > In light of a better understanding on the nature of the vows and oaths > taken, should churches distance themselves from these organizations? > > Because of the masons represent so much of black historic organizational > culture, how do you maintain cultural sensitivity over this issue? > > In Him, > JMb <>< > Bishop James 'I Feel God' Brown > http://www.1000churches.org > http://www.ifghosting.com > > > <>< ><> <>< ><> <>< > > _________________________________________________________________ > From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing > on MSN Radio Plus. 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