I am not the Mike being address and I have been silent for the most part in
this issue, except at the beginning. However, I would like to input just a
small bit.
I believe in the election of God, yet I believe his election has to do with
His foreknowledge of those who would respond to His call. Therefore, he
can, before the foundation of the world, know who will be saved and who will
be lost. This does not leave out man's free will. God knew who would
according to their free will accept Jesus as Savior and those would would
refuse. I sight one scripture for reference, yet ther are others.
1 Pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through
sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of
Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
Mike Cantrell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derick Dickens" <Derick@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] Question on Election
> Mike,
>
> A misunderstanding. First, the Bible says that God has chosen us before
> the foundations of the world. Ephesians is very clear in this. He
> chooses, thus you believe that this choice makes him a respector of
> persons. Yet, this is far from the truth. God chooses a person not
> because of anything within that person but because of God's good
> pleasure. Remember the two other points, "Total Depravity" and
> "Uncoditional Election". We are chosen not because there is something
> good or worthy in us but because God chose us... For no reason except
> for His Glory.
>
> ------------------------------------
> Wallers Baptist Church
> Pastor
> derick@...
> PO Box 95
> Partlow VA 22534
> tel: 540-582-5703
> mobile: 540-894-1772
> www.thedickensfamily.org
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Tittle [mailto:drmike1@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:58 PM
> > To: pastorsforum@...
> > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Question on Election
> >
> >
> > Let me see if I understand what you are saying.
> >
> > Before the foundation of the world, God decides who will be
> > saved and will be lost. This one is saved, this one is not.
> > Therefore all men do not have the opportunity to get saved.
> > God is a respector of persons because some are called and
> > some never have the opportunity to be saved.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
> > To: <pastorsforum@...>
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] Question on Election
> >
> >
> > > Jerry,
> > > The biblical doctrine of reprobation is the logical
> > consequence to
> > > God's choosing some to salvation. Because He chooses some
> > that means
> > > He does not choose (or passes over) others. This is a
> > dreadful decree
> > > and we do not fully understand why God does what He does.
> > But those who are
> > > reprobate are not getting anything that they did not
> > deserve because
> > > of their sin. We all deserve death and eternal punishment
> > but God in
> > > His grace and mercy chose to save some.
> >
> > --
> > To unsubscribe, send ANY message to:
> > pastorsforum-unsubscribe@...
> >
> > "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things,
> > liberty; and in all things, charity."
> >
> >
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, send ANY message to:
pastorsforum-unsubscribe@...
>
> "In essential things, unity; in non-essential things, liberty; and in all
things, charity."
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005
>
>
--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005