[pastorsforum] Re: [PastorsForum] another question - KEYS

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From: "Steven G. Rockhill" <revrock@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:51:01 -0500
Is it possbilbe to lose the key once you have been given it.  :-)

Steve

Derick Dickens wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> The Holy Spirit gave me the key at salvation.  If you don't have one....
> Uh, sorry brother but we need to talk.
> 
> Derick
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Pastor David Warner [mailto:dwarner@...] 
>>Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 4:16 PM
>>To: pastorsforum@...
>>Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] another question - KEYS
>>
>>
>>Steve,
>>I believe copies are prohibited.  They are marked as such and 
>>no reputable key maker would try to copy.  Although, many 
>>imposter and false keys have been circulated over the years.  
>>You don't have to worry about someone hiding the key.  Just 
>>plead the Blood, that's what will get you in.  Tell them you 
>>are a child of the King and all family members are allowed 
>>in. It's not the "whosoever" list you have to worry about not 
>>being on, it's the "limited" list. :-)
>>
>>DW
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Steven G. Rockhill [mailto:revrock@...]
>>Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:56 PM
>>To: pastorsforum@...
>>Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] another question - KEYS
>>
>>
>>Thanks David,
>>   Do you think it will be o.k. to 'borrow' one for a bit - I 
>>want to go to Ace Hardware and get my own copy made.  I am 
>>afraid that some of the brethren might try to play a trick on 
>>me and hide the Keys when I come to the P. G's and try to 
>>deny me entrance by saying I am not on the "whosoever" list.  
>>So if I have my own key I can just pass right on through at 
>>any time without any hinderances as if I had been predestined 
>>to do so before the foundation of the world.  That'll show em.
>>
>>Peace,
>>steve
>>
>>Pastor David Warner wrote:
>>
>>>Steve,
>>>The spare key is under the right fender of the chariot.  
>>
>>There is also 
>>
>>>another one under the mat you which you must wipe your feet before
>>
>>entering
>>
>>>through Pearly Gates.
>>>All should keep a copy of this email so you will know where 
>>
>>they are 
>>
>>>for future reference.
>>>
>>>DW
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Steven G. Rockhill [mailto:revrock@...]
>>>Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:27 PM
>>>To: pastorsforum@...
>>>Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] another question - KEYS
>>>
>>>
>>>Aren't the "keys" for the padlock on the Pearly Gates?  After Jesus 
>>>gave them to Peter, didn't Peter put them in a box and bury them in 
>>>Rome somewhere in the spot where the Vatican is today?  
>>
>>Don't the keys 
>>
>>>get passed on from one vicar to another - I wonder if they had ever 
>>>been lost - I sure hope they have a spare set hidden somewhere 
>>>otherwise no one is getting in!
>>>
>>>Oh OK - I am just having a little fun. But closer to being 
>>
>>serious now 
>>
>>>- I think the "keys" are the authority given to the church and in 
>>>particular the elders of the Church who oversee and serve as the 
>>>undershepherds.  They have the authority to loose and bind - i.e. 
>>>receive members into the church and cast out members via church 
>>>discipline (e.g. excommunication).  They have the authority 
>>
>>to ordain 
>>
>>>and defrock again via church discipline.  In this way they will be 
>>>carrying out what has already taken place in heaven.  Yes even here 
>>>God's plan comes before the plan of men - the literal 
>>
>>reading is "what 
>>
>>>you loose on earth shall have been (already) bound in heeven" - 
>>>periphrastic usage I think.
>>>
>>>  I don't believe Jesus gave the "keys" to just Peter (though the 
>>>pronouns are 2nd person singular) but to Peter as the 
>>
>>representative 
>>
>>>of all the disciples/Apostles.  The "keys" are not literal btw.
>>>
>>>Peace,
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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