I think it is an ecumenical world maybe.  Perhaps I've been hanging out with
the wrong crowd. :-)
Don't know where I got it.  I thought it just popped into my head--but
nothing new under the sun.
I did visit with a Bapticostal last summer so maybe that's where I got it.

DW


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry [mailto:jelewis@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:02 PM
To: pastorsforum@...
Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] another question - KEYS


David W,


........................

David said,

"Just plead the Blood, that's what will get you in."

What is this"plead the Blood" ????

That sounds like "Pentecostal Tradition."

Where in the world did a good "IFB" brother pick up such lingo????

<Smile>

Jerry L




----- Original Message -----
From: "Pastor David Warner" <dwarner@...>
To: <pastorsforum@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 4:15 PM
Subject: RE: [PastorsForum] another question - KEYS


> Steve,
> I believe copies are prohibited.  They are marked as such and no reputable
> key maker would try to copy.  Although, many imposter and false keys have
> been circulated over the years.  You don't have to worry about someone
> hiding the key.  Just plead the Blood, that's what will get you in.  Tell
> them you are a child of the King and all family members are allowed in.
> It's not the "whosoever" list you have to worry about not being on, it's
> the
> "limited" list. :-)
>
> DW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven G. Rockhill [mailto:revrock@...]
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:56 PM
> To: pastorsforum@...
> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] another question - KEYS
>
>
> Thanks David,
>   Do you think it will be o.k. to 'borrow' one for a bit - I want to go
> to Ace Hardware and get my own copy made.  I am afraid that some of the
> brethren might try to play a trick on me and hide the Keys when I come
> to the P. G's and try to deny me entrance by saying I am not on the
> "whosoever" list.  So if I have my own key I can just pass right on
> through at any time without any hinderances as if I had been predestined
> to do so before the foundation of the world.  That'll show em.
>
> Peace,
> steve
>
> Pastor David Warner wrote:
>> Steve,
>> The spare key is under the right fender of the chariot.  There is also
>> another one under the mat you which you must wipe your feet before
> entering
>> through Pearly Gates.
>> All should keep a copy of this email so you will know where they are for
>> future reference.
>>
>> DW
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steven G. Rockhill [mailto:revrock@...]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:27 PM
>> To: pastorsforum@...
>> Subject: Re: [PastorsForum] another question - KEYS
>>
>>
>> Aren't the "keys" for the padlock on the Pearly Gates?  After Jesus gave
>> them to Peter, didn't Peter put them in a box and bury them in Rome
>> somewhere in the spot where the Vatican is today?  Don't the keys get
>> passed on from one vicar to another - I wonder if they had ever been
>> lost - I sure hope they have a spare set hidden somewhere otherwise no
>> one is getting in!
>>
>> Oh OK - I am just having a little fun. But closer to being serious now -
>> I think the "keys" are the authority given to the church and in
>> particular the elders of the Church who oversee and serve as the
>> undershepherds.  They have the authority to loose and bind - i.e.
>> receive members into the church and cast out members via church
>> discipline (e.g. excommunication).  They have the authority to ordain
>> and defrock again via church discipline.  In this way they will be
>> carrying out what has already taken place in heaven.  Yes even here
>> God's plan comes before the plan of men - the literal reading is "what
>> you loose on earth shall have been (already) bound in heeven" -
>> periphrastic usage I think.
>>
>>   I don't believe Jesus gave the "keys" to just Peter (though the
>> pronouns are 2nd person singular) but to Peter as the representative of
>> all the disciples/Apostles.  The "keys" are not literal btw.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
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