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                         Ancient Rabbinic Quotes
                           Concerning--Messiah
                             & the Tri-unity
                                of HaShem
                                   !!!
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Also included are some quotes from the Sibylline Oracles, Encly.

Judaica/Jewish Encly., and Tanach. NOTE: Most of these are ancient Rabbinic quotes, some are modern

      quotes. The verse numbers may vary very slightly depending
             on which version you are using of the Bible.
      I have not looked up all these in context in the origional
                 writings, but, should be accurate.
      Some verses/passages/quotes,  contain CAPS that are not in
      the origionals for emphasis purposes.  {& using L-rd=YHVH}
      I hope you will find this a valuable witnessing tool,  and
      may the L-rd grant an increase to the  Elect of Israel  as
      in  The Great Commission of  Yeshua [Jesus] HaMashiach  we
             go to the Jew first, and also to the nations.
                    B'Shem Yeshua HaMashiach, Amen.

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Who was it that ascended into heaven, and came down again? Who gathered the wind in His fists? Who bound the waters in a garment? Who set up all the ends of the earth? What is His Name, and what is His Son's Name, if thou knowest it?
[Proverbs 30:4/Lesser's translation].
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MIDRASH MISHLE[10:21];Rab Huna counted amongst the seven Names of Messiah also: L-rd Zidkenu, [Referring to Jer.23:6]. .
R.JOSEPH ALBO OF TOLEDO [SEPHER IKKARIM 28:54] The Scripture calleth the Names of Messiah also: L-rd Zidkenu, because He is the Mediator through Whom we shall get the righteousness of the L-rd. .
R.ELIJAH DE VIDAS: The meaning of He was wounded for our transgressions, ruised for our iniquities is, that since Messiah bears our inquities, which produce the effect of His being bruised, it follows that whoso will not admit that the Messiah thus suffers for our iniquities must endure and suffer for them himself. [on Is. 53] .
SANHEDRIN [93B]: Messiah...What is His Name? The disciples of the school of the Rabbi [Yehudah Hanassi, the author of the Mishnah] said: Cholaja [The sickly] for it says [Is.53:4]:Surely He hath born our sicknesses and carried our pains; and we did regard Him stricken, smitten of G-d and afflicted. [See also note aa Pesiqta].
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ZOHAR [TO DEUT. 6:4]: Hear O Israel: YHVH our G-d, YHVH is One. Why is there a need of mentioning the Name of G-d three times in this verse? The First L-rd is the Father above. The Second is the Stem of Jesse, the Messiah Who is to come from the family of Jesse through David. And the Third One is the Way which is below [meaning the Holy Spirit Who shows us the way] and These Three are One.
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Rabbi Moshe el Sheikh, Chief Rabbi of Safed: .
"I will do yet a third thing, and that is, that 'they shall look unto me,' for they shall lift up their eyes unto me in perfect repentance, when they see Him Whom they pierced, that is Messiah, the Son of Joseph; for our Rabbi's, of blessed memory, have said that He will take upon Himself all the guilt of Israel, and shall then be slain in the war to make an atonement in such manner that it shall be accounted asif Israel had pierced Him, for on account of their sin He has died; and therefore, in order that it may be reckoned to them as perfect atonement, they will repent and look to the Blessed One, saying, that there is none beside Him to forgive those that mourn on account of Him who died for their sin; this is the meaning of 'They shall look upon Me...'"
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     Rabbis Samuel bar Nahman in the name of Rabbi Jonathan
     said, that at the time when Moses wrote the Torah,
     writing a portion of it daily, when he came to this
     verse which says, `And Elohim said, let us make man in
     our image after our likeness,' Moses said, Master of
     the Universe why do you give herewith an excuse to the
     sectarians (who believe in the triunity of God), God
     answered Moses, You write and whoever wants to err let
     him err.
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     Come near unto me, hear this: I have not spoken in
     secret from the beginning; from the time that it was,
     there am I; and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath
     sent me. (Isaiah 48:16)

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G-d will set His own crown upon the
head of King Messiah, and clothe Him with honor and majesty...Midrash Tehillim on Ps.21:3...Rabbi Hann in the name of Rabbi Aha; continues the thought...G-d will bestow a portion of His supernatural glory on Messiah....The Midrash then continues with two designations of Messiah; L-rd, a man of war and L-rd, is our righteousness. .
[On Is.9:6; R.Aben Ezra:]...There are some interpreters who say that 'Wonderful, Everlasting Father' are names of G-d and only 'Prince of Peace' is the Name of the child. But according to my view the interpretation is right (which says): all are the Names of the child. .
[Midrash Echa (1:51):]...What is the Name of King Messiah? To this answered Rabbi Abba bar Kahana: L-rd is His Name, for it is written: 'This is the Name whereby He shall be called: L-rd Zidkenu'. .
[See also, MidrashRabbah 999:8), (Ps. 45:6), (Prov.30:4), (Ps.2:7), (Sukkah [52a]), (Zohar [part III, fol.307, Amsterdam edition]) (Ps.2:12 Lesser's trans.)...{ect...not also, verses in Tanach may be one or two verses differance depending upon your translation}. .
[Ps.2:12 Heb. 'Bar' = 202]...Thou art the Son, the faithful shepherd; of Thee it is said, 'Kiss the Son'. {note: this has been removed in English in many new Jewish Tanach translation, but it is there in the Hebrew!} Thou art the Governor of the Universe, the Head of Israel, the Lord of ministering angels, the Son of the Highest, the Son of the Holy and Blessed One, yea the very Shechinah. {note: The Shechinah is the VERY HOLY SPIRIT OF HA-SHEM!}.
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[Zohar vol.III]...The Ancient and Holy One is revealed and described as being Three; it is because the Other Lights are Two complete Ones, yet is the Ancient and Holy One described and complete as One, and He is One, positively One; thus are the Other Lights united and glorified in One, because They are One...[Rabbi Simeon further states]...Thus are the Three Lights united in One. The Spirit which is downward, Who is called the Holy Spiritl the Spirit which is the Middle Pillar, who is called the Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding, also called the Spirit below. The Upper Spirit is hidden in secret; in Him are existing all the Holy Spirits [the Holy Spirit and the Spirit that is the middle pillar], and all that is light.".
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[Rabbi T. Nassi on Rosh HaShannah]...the three-fold sound of the ram's horn which is sounded on Rosh Hashanah, is an emblem of the Three-fold nature of
G-d.
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{see also, (Bereshis Rabba 2), (R.Simeon on Song of Songs 2:6, Zohar Tanchuma), (R. Tzvi Nassi's book, The Great Mystery), (Burt Yellin's book, Messiah, A Rabbinic & Scriptural Viewpoint, {available locally only}) (Sukkah 52a; Rabbi Dosa), (Rabbi B'rekhyah: From the Suffering Servant of Isaiah, S. Driver & A. Neubauer, Hermon Press, New York, 1877.)....ect...ect...ect....
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Alfred Adersheim was a Torah Scholar of renown, Rabbi Max Wertheimer, Talmud Scholar,
Shabbetai Benjamin Rohold Ben of respected Rabbi's in Erets Israel, Jospeh Rabinowitz Ben of a Chassidic-rabbanic family and considered a Jewish leader of his time, Rabbi Iechiel Lichtenstein district Rabbi in Tapio Szele Hungary, Scholar Joachim Heinrich Raphael Biesenthal, Scholar David Baron, Rabbi Ephraim ben Joseph Eliakim Haham of Tiberias & dayanim of the community, Hebrew Scholar Hayim Yedidiah Pollak; all of these people became Messianic Believers in Yeshua the Messiah, and the list goes on and on.... .
The Talmud states that Yeshua was of royal decent.... .
Rabbi Ulla's comments; Sanhedrin 43a...Would you believe that any defence would have been so zealously sought for him? He was a deceiver, and the All-mercciful says: You shall not spare him, neither shall you conceal him, [Deut.13:9]. It was different with Jesus, for He was near to the kingship. refferance to the Tiberias Rabbi is found in Would I Would You, a book giving accounts of famous Hebrew Believers, from the Lewis & Harriet Lederer Foundation 6204 Park Heights Ave. Baltimore, Maryland 21215, Another book is Famous Hebrew Christians by Jacob Gartenhaus... .
Back to the Tiberias Rabbi...The account of Rabbi/Haham Ephraim ben Jospeh Eliakim, became a dayanim, overseeer of justice, in the community, married the chief Rabbi's daughter, was the son of a Rabbi and leading man in the community, was also a teacher of Bible and Talmud. Part of the start of him becoming a Believer was knowing the older Jewish interpetations of Is. 53, had his mikvah shel Yeshua in Nazareth. He witnessed in Jerusalem, used to discuss Yeshua with the Yeshivah students in Jerusalem, many of whom were his former students, and died at the age of 74 on Aug.31, 1930. .
From the Karaite
Anthology, by Leon Nemoy, Yale press, pgs. 50-51, 9.Next there appeared Yesua, who Rabbanites say was the son of Pandera; he is known as Jesus, the son of Mary. He lived in the days of Joshua, the son of Perahiah, who is said to have been the maternal uncle of Jesus. This took place in the reign of Augustus Ceasar, the emperor of Rome, i.e., at the time of the second Temple. The Rabbanites plotted against Jesus until they put him to death by crucifixion. FROM:Jacov Al-Kirkisani, 900's C.E..
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RABBI HILLEL GOLDBERG: Denver, Colo. I.M.J.N. in View From Denver..."Now, a few authoritive Jewish philosophers did not see Christianity as idolatry for non-Jews, and still fewer went further, seeing in Christianity a positive, civilizing, and even religiously elevating influence for non-Jews." .
ISRAEL SCHOLAR, DR.PINCHAS LAPIDE, in this respect you must believe me, for I do know my Talmud more or less...This Jesus was as faithful to the law as I would hope to be. But I suspect that Jesus was more faithful to the law than I am - and I am an orthodox Jew.
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DAVID FLUSSER, PROFESSOR OF RELIGIOUS HISTORY AT HEBREW UNIVERSITY IN JERUSALEM: I do not think that many Jews would object if the Messiah - when He came - was the Jew Jesus.
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The King
Messiah shall be exalted above Abraham, be high ABOVE MOSES. [Neve Shalom] .
I have examined and searched all the Holy Scriptures, and have not found the time for coming of Messiah, clearly fixed, except in the words of Gabriel to the prophet Daniel, which are written in the ninth chapter of the prophecy of Daniel." R.Moses Abraham Levi.
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While the shofar is being blown in the Synagogue on Rosh HaShannah the following remarkably significant prayer is offered: .
Merciful and gracious G-d, I have sinned against Thee, and done that which is evil in Thy sight. Have mercy on me and forgive all my transgressions, trespasses and sins, through >Yehoshua< the Prince of His Presence.1 .
In most prayer books of the present day this prayer is omitted, and the following offered instead:
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May it please Thee, O L-rd G-d, and the G-d of our fathers, that Thou mayest accept it as the meditation through Elijah and Joshua, the Prince of the Presence, the Prince Metatron and that Thou mayest be filled with mercy towards us. Blessed art Thou, O L-rd Who art merciful. .
The angel Metatron, according to Jewish theology, was he who discoursed with Moses[2] and the angel in whom G-d placed His Name. The following from the Zohar is of interest in this case:
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There is a man, if a Man He is, Who is an Angel. This Angel is Metatron, the Keeper of Israel; He is a man in the image of the Holy One, blessed be He, Who is an Emanation from Him [from G-d]; yea, He [the Metatron] is Jehovah. Of Him cannot be said, He is created, formed or made; but He is the Emanation from G-d.3
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1.Salvation, don't have the referrance handy to look it up for myself as to the exact form of the word used...seems to be Joshua. from the Prayer Book For The New Year (1913). Rev.Dr.A.Th.Phillips, page 100. .
2.Exodus 3:2-15
3.Zohar, chapter 67, page 130.
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"In fact the MESSIAH IS SUCH A PROPHET as it is stated in the Midrash on the verse, "Behold my servant shall prosper....Moses by the miracles which he wrought drew but a single nation to the worship of G-d, but the MESSIAH will draw ALL NATIONS to the worship of G-d." R.Levi ben Gershom. .
"Rabbi Phinehas, Rabbi Levi, and Rabbi Yochanan said in the name of Rabbi Menachem; 'In the Time to Come, all sacrifices will be annulled, but that of thanksgiving will not be annulled.' This is indicated by what is written in [Jeremiah 33:11].
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The thought of Torah changing in the "Age to Come" is again made perfectly clear in the rendering of Deuteronomy 17:18, in Sifra. Here it is stated that the L-rd wrote a copy of Mishna-Torah for Himself, and that He would not be content with the Mishna-Torah of the father. The question is asked..."Why does He say Mishna-Torah? Because it is destined to be changed."
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"The Torah which a man learns in this world is but vanity compared with the Torah of Messiah" Midrash Qohelet on Eccl.11:8. .
Intermountain Jewish News Pages
31-32 Sec.A August 12, 1988..."WE WONDER WHETHER AMERICAN ORTHODOX JEWISH LEADERSHIP, ONE OF WHO'S SPOKESMEN RABBI GREENBERG CLAIMS TO BE..." "LEADING ORTHODOX RABBI IN
THE UNITED STATES" says...[quoting from the article]... "A Jewish leader today, Rabbi Irving Greenberg, has written (in The Relationship of Judaism and Christianity: Towards a New Organic Model, " a 19 page essay published in Quarterly Review, then distributed by CLAL)):" "...I believe the early Christians were faithful Jews when they recognized Jesus. Like good, faithful Jews, they were looking for th e Messiah, particulary in a different century. Lo and behold! They recognized his arrival. That is a very faithful response of a Jew - to recognize that the Messiah has arrived, and to respond" (p.5; pagination of CLAL reprint)" .
"should enable one to affirm the fullness of the faith-claims of the other, not just offer tolerance...We need a model that would allow both sides to respect the full nature of ht eother in all its faith-claims" (pg.2) .
"The one thing the rabbis would give Christianity, then, is that Jesus was a Messiah- a false Messiah... The Rabbis concluded that Christianity was an alien growth, developed by those who followed a false Messiah. The Rabbis perhaps erred here...."
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"...In short, the classic Christian interpretation that Christianity has superceded Judaism is an understandable hermeneutic, rooted in Jewish models of interpetation and capable of being derived out of faithfullness to past Jewish modes of thinking"(pg.7)."
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"The Rabbis and the Jews...sensed the profound continuity from Judaism into Christianity."(pg.8)"
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"Nor does my analysis foreclose the possibility that sacramental Christianity is in fact a higher form of Biblical religion, i.e., one in which God is even MORE manifest and present"[emphasis in origional] (pg.14)" .
"...this model offers the affirmation of the fullest possibilities of Christ: from God Incarnate to prophet or messiah or teacher - freed at least of the incubus of hatred and monopolistic claims of owning God"(pg.15)"


Former Chief Rabbi finds the Messiah, [adapted from a narrative by Dr. Jacob Gartenhaus]....
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Rabbi
Daniel Zion, former chief Rabbi of Bulgaria and later chief Rabbi of Jaffa Israel. The article says that more controversy has he been the subject of than any other personality. Scores of articles in both Jewish and Christian periodicals have been written about him. .
He first made his confession of Belief in Yeshua in 1952, and was discharged from being the chief of Jaffa the same year, Rabbi Zion was allowed to tell of his experience on Kol Israel Radio station in Israel, such a thing had never been permitted before. {His Kol Israel Radio statement follows}.... .
...More than 20 years ago, I had the first opportunity of reading the New Covenant. It influenced me greatly. I began to speak of it in a small circle in Bulgaria. I always regretted that Yeshua the Messiah has been estranged from the community of Israel. Yeshua had nothing but good for the Jewish people. He called them to repentance and proclaimed the Kingdom of G-d. But I must confess that my position as a Rabbi did not allow me at once to come out openly before the world in order to spread this truth until, G-d in His great mercy, set me free from all fear. He brought me into this country of Israel, where at first I discharged my duties as a Rabbi of Jaffa. After I gave up my position [as a Rabbi], I went to Jerusalem where for a whole month I engaged in fasting, prayer and supplicaton. It was then that I asked G-d to show me the right way, and the Eternal heard my prayer. On the first of Shebat, 5710 [Spring 1950], the Holy Spirit revealed to me that Yeshua is indeed the Messiah, who suffered for us and sacrificed Himself for our sin. A burning fire in my heart gave me no rest until I had publicly confessed my faith. In spite of all difficulties, suffering and persecutions, which I have endured incessantly, nothing could dissuade me from my faith. On the contrary, G-d to Whom I have given my heart and to Whom I turn in all my needs, has given me the strength and power to continue in my witness. He spoke to me through a verse in Is.41:10: Fear thou not; for I am with thee; yea, be not dismayed, for I am thy G-d; I will uphold thee with the right hand of my Righteousness." By this I understood that a great and important task has been given to me by the Eternal, which I must accomplish at all costs. Do not think that I have left Judaism. On the contrary, I have remained Jewish, and become more Jewish because Yeshua Himself remained Jewish. I comply with the Torah, just as Yeshua the Messiah complied with it. May it be G-d's will that Yeshua the Messiah come to unite the whole world in one faith, that everyone may be prepared for the Kingdom of the Almighty, in order that the words of Zechariah 14 be fulfilled: 'And the L-rd shall be King over all the earth'. 2 .
2 Postcript: Rabbi Zion was able to proclaim his faith in Yeshua to thousands of Jewish people till he died in his one hundredth year. THERE YOU HAVE IT, STRAIGHT FROM THE FORMER CHIEF RABBI OF JAFFA! ................................................................... .
     And I will put enmity between thee and the WOMAN, and
     between thy seed and her SEED; He shall bruise thy
     head and thou shalt bruise His heel.
     -Gen.3:15 Lesser's.
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     It is not written that we may perserve a son from our
     father, but SEED from our father.  This is the SEED
     that is coming from another place.  And Who is this?
     This is the King Messiah.
     -Ber.Rabbah (51,ed. Warsh. p.95 a, on Genesis 19:32).
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     This is that SEED that is coming from another place, and
     Who is this?  This is the King Messiah.
     -Ber.Rabbah 51, ed. Wars. P.95,a, on Gen.19:23
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     The serpent of Gen.3 is identified with satan.
     -Jewish Ency. (p.70,col.b)
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     Isaac carried the wood like a man who takes up his cross.
     -Pesikta Rab. (54, a).
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     Our Rabbis have a tradition that in the week in which
     Messiah will be born there will be a bright star in the
     east, which is the 'star of the Messiah.'
     -Pesikta Sortarta. (fol.58 c.1)
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     Kings shall not cease, nor rulers from the house of
     Judah, nor sapherim teaching the Law from his seed,
     till the time that the King The Messiah shall come,
     Who will arise from Yehudah.  How beauteous is the
     King, The Messiah Who will arise from Yehudah.
     -Targum Palestine, Gen.49:10.
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     From what has been said you will perceive that Shiloh,
     The Messiah, was to appear whilst Judah was a distinct
     tribe, having its genealogies, and its magistrates,
     scribes, lawyers and expounders of G-d's Laws.  But it
     is an undeniable fact that Tribe of Judah, as well as
     all the other tribes, has lost its genealogies for more
     than seventeen hundred years and therefore the Messiah
     must have appeared, or the prediction is false.  To
     assert the latter would be blasphemy; to deny the former
     is unreasonable.
     -R. Frey
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     For many days shall the children of Israel abide without
     a King, and without a Prince, and without a Sacrifice,
     and without a standing image, and without an ephod, and
     without a teraphim.  After that will the children of
     Israel return and seek for the L-rd their G-d, and David
     their King,....
     -Hosea 3:4-5, Lesser's.
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     David their King is this Messiah, like, 'My servant David
     shall be their King forever."
     -Aben Ezra
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     The Messiah had one spirit which was equal to all the
     others put together according to Isaiah 11:1-10.
     -Yalkut (vol.1 p.247,d)(Edersheim)
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     Therefore will the Lord Himself give you a sign; behold
     this almah/young woman, [in LXX trans. done by 70 Rabbi's
     it is the Greek word for virgin], shall conceive, and
     bare a Son and she shall call His Name Immanuel, (G-d
     with us).
     -Isaiah 7:14 Lesser's.
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     'Behold a virgin shall conceive', There are some who say
     that this was made a sign, because a virgin 'fuit non
     apta generationi.
     -Jarchi.
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     R. Huni in the name of R. Ide and R. Joshua said, that
     this man is the King Messiah of Whom it is said, Psalms
     2:7, 'This day have I begotten Thee.'
     -Talmud Bab.
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     Jarchi refutes the above by observing that Hezekiah was
     nine years old when his father Ahaz began to reign, and
     he must be at this time, at least thirteen years of age.
     In like manner Kimchi, and Eben Ezra object to it; and
     besides his mother could not be called a virgin.
     -Gill.
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     Out of thee Bethlehem shall Messiah go forth before me,
     to exercise dominion over Israel.  Whose Name has been
     spoken from of old from the day of eternity.
     -Micah 5:2 Targum Jonathan
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     Out of thee (Bethlehem) shall come forth unto me Messiah,
     the Son of David.
     -R.Jarchi
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     Behold, I will send my messenger, and He shall clear out
     the way before me:  and suddenly will come to His Temple
     the L-rd Whom ye seek; and the Messenger of the Covenant
     Whom ye desire, for behold He is coming saith the L-rd
     of hosts.
     -Malachi 3:1 Lesser's
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     The L-rd is the King Messiah; He is also the Angel of the
     Covenant.
     -Kimchi
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     The L-rd is both the Divine Majesty, and the Angel of the
     Covenant, for the sentence is doubled.
     -Aben Ezra
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     The L-rd may be explained of the King Messiah.
     -Mashmiah Jeshua, fol.76
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     The Most Holy is the Messiah, for He is more holy than the
     sons of David.
     -R. Nachman
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     Our Rabbis expound this in a Midrash of the King Messiah
     saying, He shall be higher than Abraham, exalted above
     Moses, and loftier than the ministering angels.
     -R.Sa'adyah Ibn Danan {Midrash Tanchuma}
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     For to us a Son is born, to us a Son is given:  and He
     shall receive the Law upon Him to keep it; and His Name
     is called from of old, Wonderful, Counselor, ELOHA, The
     Mighty, Abiding to Eternity, The Messiah, because peace
     shall be multiplied on us in His days.
     -Isaiah 9:6 Targum Jonathan
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     Rabbi Samuel, the son of Nachman, said, 'When Esau met
     Jacob he said unto him, "My brother Jacob, let us walk
     together in this world.  Jacob replied: Let my L-rd, I
     pray thee, pass over before his servant" (Genesis 33:14)
     What is the meaning of, "I pray thee, pass over?  Jacob
     said to him:  I have yet to supply the Messiah, of Whom
     it is said: "Unto us a Child is born".
     -Midrash (Deuteronomy 2:4)
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     For those who cannot look upon the Son Himself, behold
     Him in His reflected light, even thus do they regard the
     image of G-d, Who is His Angel, the Word [Logos], as G-d
     Himself.
     -(De Plant Noe) Philo Judaeus
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     There are it seemeth two Temples of G-d.  The one in this
     world, in which also there is a High Priest, His First
     Begotten Divine Word (Logos).
     -Philo Judaeus
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     We may all feel thankful that the Jewish race was so
     prolific in great men, that even so late in history, it
     produced one {Jesus} who deserves to be compared with
     Moses, Isaiah and Hillel.
     -Rabbi Adolph Moses in Courier-Journal 1885
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     As it is said of the former redeemer, and Moses took
     his wife, and his sons, and set them on an ass (Exodus
     4:20), so it is said of the latter Redeemer {Messiah}
     "poor and riding on an ass"
     -Midrash Kohelet (fol.63:2)
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     Deutero-Zechariah's Messiah has much in common with
     Isaiah's.  He is described (Zechariah 9:9) as a
     righteous Prince of Peace who will rise from the ranks
     of the pious and oppressed, who will ride into Jerusalem
     not in military splender, but on an ass. (Compaire
     Jesus' entry into Jerusalem on an ass),....
     -Jewish Encyl. {vol.8, p.507, c.a.}

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My Son art Thou; I have indeed this day begotten Thee. *Do homage to the Son, lest He be angry, and ye be lost on the way; for His wrath is so speedily kindled. Happy are all they that put their trust in Him. -Psalms 2:7-12 Lesser's
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*[Ps.2:12 Heb. 'Bar' = 202]...Thou art the Son, the faithful shepherd; of Thee it is said, 'Kiss the Son'. {note: this has been removed in English in many new Jewish Tanach translation, but it is there in the Hebrew!} Thou art the Governor of the Universe, the Head of Israel, the Lord of ministering angels, the Son of the Highest, the Son of the Holy and Blessed One, yea the very Shechinah. {note: The Shechinah is the VERY HOLY SPIRIT OF HA-SHEM!}. .

     Our Doctors expound the Psalm of the Messiah.
     -(Jarchi (Maas) [ref.Ps.2]
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     Whosoever is not willing to praise This Son, his sins shall
     be brought before the Holy King.
     -Zohar (Dent.fol.109) [ref.Ps.2]
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     But if it be interpreted of the Messiah, the matter is clear.
     -Aben Ezra [ref.Ps.2]
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     It is a tradition of the Rabbis that Messiah, The Son of
     David, Who is to be revealed speedily.....the Holy One
     said unto Him, Ask of Me anything and I will give it thee,
     for it is said; 'I will declare the decree, etc. "Today
     have I begotten thee."
     -Talmud Bab. (Succah, fol.52) [ref.Ps.2]

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*This is the faithful Shepherd; Of Thee it is said, "Kiss

     the Son,"  Thou art the Prince of the Israelites, the L-rd
     of the earth.....The Son of the Most High, the Son of The
     Holy G-d.....and the gracious Shekinah.
     -Zohar (Gen.fol.88, c.348) [ref.Ps.2]
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     Know Him as your G-d, Who is the Son of G-d.
     -Sibylline Oracles (Lactantins P.10 s.)
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     Then He [My Servant Messiah] will become despised, and will
     cut off the glory of all the Kingdoms; they will be prostrate
     and mourning, like a man of pains, and like One destined for
     sickness; and as though the Presence of the Shekinah had been
     withdrawn from us, they will be despised, and esteemed not.
     -Targum Jonathan Isaiah 53:3
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     Our Rabbis with one voice accept and affirm the opinion that
     the prophet is here speaking of the Messiah.
     -R.Mosheh El-Sheikh [ref.Is.53:3]
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     There is a secret one [interpretation] sealed up in it's
     midst, which sees throughout allusions to the King Messiah
     ......And in the same sense it is expounded by our Rabbis.
     -R.Sa'adyah Ibn Danan [ref.Is.53:3]
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     Awake, O sword against My Shepherd, and against the Man I
     have associated with Me, saith the L-rd of hosts:  smite
     the Shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered; but I will
     turn my hand towards the feeble one.
     -Zechariah 13:7 Lesser's
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     This prophecy refers to the great wars which shall be in
     all the earth in the times of Messiah ben Joseph:  but
     they regard the times of Messiah, the Son of David, Who is
     already come.
     -Aden Ezra [ref.Zech.13:7]
.
     But the wise man, R. Abraham Ben Ezra, has interpreted this
     prophecy of the great wars which shall be in all the world
     in the days of the Messiah the Son of Joseph....The Messiah
     therefore is the Person to be smitten before the scattering
     of the sheep.
     -R. Kimchi [ref.Zech.13:7]
.
     ...At that time G-d will tell Messiah all that will happen
     to Him.  The sins of the souls of the ones who are with Thee
     under My throne will in the generation of Messiah bend Thee
     down under a yoke of iron and Thou make Thee like a calf
     whose eyes are dimmed because of pain and Thy Spirit will be
     pressed as with a yoke; Because of the sins of these souls;
     Thy tongue shall cleave to the roof of Thy mouth.  Art Thou
     willing to suffer these things?  Messiah will ask [G-d], will
     these sufferings last many years?  G-d answers Him: I swear...
     that they will last for one week only.  If Thou dost regret it
     I will banish their sinful souls right away!  Messiah
     answered, With joy in My soul and gladness in My heart, I take
     upon Me these sufferings that no one in Israel might perish,
     both the living and those that are buried in the dust of the
     earth, and all the souls from the First Adam even until now...
     During the week [of years] when the Son of David, the Messiah
     comes, they will bring iron bars and put them on His neck until
     His height is bent low and He cries, and weeps so that His
     voice ascends even to the sky.  And He [Messiah] will say:
     Master of the Universe, is then My power and My Spirit
     unlimited, even My limbs and My soul?  Am I not flesh and
     blood?
     It is because of this future ordeal that David [prophetically]
     wept, saying My strength is dried up like a potsherd [Psalms
     22:7].  At this hour, G-d will say to Him, Ephraim, My
     Righteous Messiah, didst Thou not agree before the creation to
     this?  Now let Your sorrows be as My own sorrows....
     At that Messiah answers, Now is My Spirit calmed for 'It is
     enough for a servant to be like master.'
     Pesikta Rabbati {Piska 36:142}/Yalkut on Isaiah 60:1-2}
.
     It is well known that in the coming of the Messiah is
     (included) the coming of the Blessed G-d into the world.
     -R. Alschech
.
     And being beaten He shall be silent lest any one should know
     what The Word is, or whence it came, that it may speak with
     mortals; and He shall wear the CROWN OF THORNS.
     -Sibylline Oracles (B.C. 117, 184)
.
     And they shall inflict on G-d blows with impure hands, and
     with polluted mouths they shall send forth polluted spittle
     and He shall then absolutely give His Holy back to stripes.
     -Sibylline Oracles (B.C. 117, 184)
.
     While He bore the sins of many and for the transgressors He
     let (evil) befall Him.
     -Isaiah 53:12.b Lesser's
.
     And when Israel is sinful, the Messiah seeks for mercy upon
     them, as it is written, "By His stripes we were healed, and
     He carried the sins of many; and made intercession for the
     transgressors."
     -B'reshith Rabbah (pp.430, 671)
.
     .....And they will look up toward Me (for every one) Whom
     they have thrust through, and they will lament for Him as
     one lamenteth for an Only Son, and weepeth bitterly for
     the Firstborn.
     -Zechariah 12:10 Lesser's
.
     And the heathen will look unto Me to see what I will do to
     those who have pierced Messiah, the Son of Joseph.
     -Aben Ezra
.
     It must be granted him that says, for Messiah the Son of
     Joseph that shall be slain as it is written, And they shall
     look upon Me Whom they have pierced.
     -Talmud Bab. (Succah 52, 1)
.
     He will revive us after two days; on the third day He will
     raise us up, and we shall live in His Presence.
     -Hosea 6:2 Lesser's
.
     This passage is applied to the resurrection and to the
     Messiah by R. Moses Hadarshan in Genesis 22:4.
     -Ber Rabbah (Frey)
.
     And after sleeping three days, He shall put an end to the
     fate of death; and then releasing Himself from the dead,
     He shall come to light, first showing to the 'called ones'
     the beginning of the Resurrection.
     -Sibylline Oracles (See Jewish Encyclopedia)
.
     R. Alexander said R.Joshua ben Levi objects to what is
     written, "And behold one like the Son of man came with the
     clouds of heaven; and it is written, "Poor and riding upon
     and ass"; if they {Israel} are worthy He {Messiah} comes
     with the clouds of heaven; but if they are not worthy, He
     comes poor and riding on an ass.
     -Talmud Babl. (Sanh., fol.98, 1)
.
     The following from tractate Sanhedrin 98a.....
     Rabbi Yoshua met Elijah standing at the entrance to the cave
     of Rabbi Simeon b. Yochai and said to him:
     "When will the Messiah come?"
     Elijah responds:
     "Go and ask Him yourself."
     R. Yoshua:
     "And where does He reside?"
     Elijah:
     "He abides among the poor, the sick and the stricken."
     R. Yoshua went and met Messiah and said:
     "Peace be unto You, my Rabbi and my L-rd."
     Messiah replies:
     "Peace be unto you, son of Levi."
     R. Yoshua asks the Messiah:
     "When will You come my L-rd?"
     Messiah:
     "Today!"
     Upon returning to the cave, Elijah asks Him:
     "What did He say to you?"
     R. Yoshua:
     "He said, 'Peace be unto you son of Levi.'"
     {Elijah explains to him that the Messiah has assured both
     him and his father of the World to Come.}
     R. Yoshua perplexed says:
     "But He deceived me, in that He said He would come today,
     and He has not come."
     Elijah replies:
     "By the word 'Today,' He meant, 'IF YOU BUT HEAR MY VOICE!'"
.
                            !!!!!!!
                               w

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Rabbinic sources concerning the Tri-unity of Ha-Shem posted by Yaacov on 07/30/2005 at 20:36:09 from IP# 85.64.12.216

Shalom and Blessing to all members of this group!

The above collection of evidence is impressive, indeed!

I would like to share some thoughts concerning Trinity / Tri-unity from my very personal Messianic-Jewish viewpoint:

First of all It looks very strange to me that there are so many people, Christians and Jews alike, who claim to understand the Holy Scriptures transporting the Trinity / Tri-unity, as well in God's revelation as in the human existence. On the ground of the Holy Scriptures both of it does not make much sense to me. I will try to explain this:

The Trinity of God as generally described is a unity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, while the human trinity is seen as the tselem (image) thereof, usually being described as the human sub-entities body, soul and spirit. Logically we would have to assign the human spirit to the Holy Spirit, and the human body to the Son, thus leaving only the soul to assign to the Father.

The following will show that the concept of Trinity not fits, neither to God nor to the human existence. 

Please watch with me how in Genesis God first makes man by forming a body of dust, and then blowing His breath into the form, thus making man a living soul. I would like to know: How can we produce three entities of the same logical level from this account in Genesis?

Let's summarize what we have on the first logical level:1) God forms the human body from dust2) God breathes His breath into the form

On the next higher logical level the two parts are summarized:3) dust and breath become a living soul

This teaches us about category and sub-categories of the human existence and it also remembers us of God's creation of the first day: "And it was evening, and it was morning, one day." Again we have a "trinitarian" appearance, and again I summarize what we got on the different logical levels:

On the first logical level we have1) an evening2) a morning

And on the next higher level the two are united and receive a collective name:3) one day

There is little doubt that one day according to the Holy Scriptures is consisting of an evening and a morning. This looks to me like it would explain to us that a day is a parity of night an morning rather than a trinity of night, morning and day.

The same is true for man who becomes a living soul by being made of dust and God's breath, thus teaching us that after being united, dust, formed by God's hands (body), and breath of God's mouth (Holy Spirit), are given the collective name "living soul".

There is one more example in the account of the creation where two sub-entities are united into one entity: Between the two above mentioned acts of creation the (pair of) waters under the (pair of) skies are collected into a mikwe, thus uniting the (pair of) waters (male and female?) into a ritual bath, called mikwe, the place where up to this very day Jewish persons restore their ritual purity, something that Christians kept alive in the ceremony of baptism (as far as it is performed by complete immersion).

This third example is so rich in symbolism and so exclusively dual, that even by looking at a mikwe with the naked eye, only two can be distinguished: the vessel and the water, resembling not only two different entities but two different levels of logic as well. One of them is the collective appearance of the contents (waters) and the other is the container (mikwe).

The dust and the breath are collectively named "man", while the expression "living soul" is a collective expression by itself as we have learned. Looking at this from a meta position we recognise another parity: the parity of man and living soul. If looking at it that way, we suddenly can understand how it comes that in the New Testament's teaching some men are called dead while others are called living. There is true eschatological logic in that view. But on the other hand this logic is completely absent in the Trinity-concept.

I conclude that there is something utterly illogic in the Trinity doctrine, and if not illogic so questionable at least, not only because entities of two different logical levels are treated as if they would belong to one and the same logical level, category and sub-category being mixed into one illogical soup, but also by performing a serious act of violence towards the Holy Scriptures.

What do I mean by that?

When God inspired the authors of the Holy Scriptures, He surely counted on the humans to use their brains that He had packed into their heads. These brains should obvioulsy empower us to comprehend the Word He presented us.

The interesting fact is, that as soon as doctrines like Trinity become involved, the functionalities of those brains become limited and straight forward thinking tends to be avoided completely.

Hence I conclude that to those who hold fast on doctrines instead of receiving the Word of God like small children, namely as if they never had heard anything of it before and as if they knew nothing about philosophy, theology and doctrines, those peoples look brainwashed to me.

I am truely convinced that doctrines like Trinity and deity of Holy Spirit will suffer some serious earthquakes in the near future. But this will need some real break through of the Holy Spirit first. I have not yet found more than a hand full of Christian persons who are ready to ask themsleves the following questions earnestly:

"Could it be that the Holy Spirit "embodies" another entity than God, and that the Unity of God's person consists of two according to the meaning of the word Ekhad in the account of the creation in book Genesis?

Could it be that the life we lost when Adam sinned was the Holy Spirit, and that the Holy Spirit is meant to be one of the sub-entities of a (living) man rather than a sub-entity of God?

Could Jesus have meant it literally when He stated: 'I and the Father are one', leaving out the Holy Spirit every time He spoke about the person of God and the unity therein?

Could it have been an act of addition to the Word of God and therefore an illegal act that the Trinity theory was made a dogma?"

With much blessings from Jerusalem

In our Lord Yeshua Ha-Mashiakh

Yaacov


looking for truth, about the Messiah posted by joe on 02/17/2001 at 05:23:49 from IP# 203.36.214.7

Looking to learn about the Jewish people, what they believe in the Messiah, about Jesus,
and most important scriptual truth, and prophecys, regarding Jesus.
The so called truth I have seen refuting Jesus as the Messiah, is totally biase, and
against scriptual truth, a baby can see the truth, Gods word is simple, but people
try to confuse it, so called bible teachers twist it to suit their purpose, weather
it is accidently, or intentionally.
By the way I am a Born Again, Spirit Filled Christian.... warm regards Joe

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